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Online Michael Hardner

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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2019, 08:22:47 am »
Hahahaha.  No.  You can't conceive of the individual efforts put into that.

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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2019, 01:08:44 pm »
Their so-called “Leave-no-trace” ethics are a lie.

'Leave no trace' has become 'hide the evidence': Reno residents sick of being Burning Man base camp

hence the event name, hey MH?  :D

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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2019, 01:45:23 pm »
I challenge anyone to name another event that leaves less trace.  Our first Ontario event left the land cleaner then when we showed up.  Reno may be sick of illegal dumpers - who wouldn't.  But the Costco we shop at seems to like the $5,000 or $6,000 we spend there.

I love Reno, BTW.

Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2019, 03:44:07 pm »
It’s not that they are having an impact and turning the place into a dump... that’s bad enough, and they should clean it up better than they do. 

But the gall to pretend like they leave it better than when everyone showed up.   Clearly bullshit.

But keep drinking the koolaid...

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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2019, 04:51:18 pm »
But the gall to pretend like they leave it better than when everyone showed up.   Clearly bullshit.

But keep drinking the koolaid...

Sorry - I was talking about MY experience at an event I organized.  Do you understand now ?  I can explain more if not.

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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2019, 06:52:26 pm »
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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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Online Michael Hardner

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2019, 08:02:52 pm »
I asked a question

Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2019, 01:46:58 am »
You have great experiences and your area was clean....  I can accept that and it’s lovely...   but, in general, people there are pigs and they did a lousy job cleaning...   

Not just garbage...   they’re shitting where they shouldn’t.  https://www.rgj.com/story/life/arts/burning-man/2018/07/18/burning-man-ravers-stop-pooping-playa/792541002/   
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In a recent report, the Bureau of Land Management, the federal agency which oversees Burning Man, expressed concern about the number of folks pooping and peeing in the deep playa.

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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2019, 03:07:50 am »
Hey Michael why your people turning the desert into an outhouse?

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Online Michael Hardner

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2019, 05:33:16 am »
You have great experiences and your area was clean....  I can accept that and it’s lovely... 

Not just 'clean' but cleaner than when we arrived.

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but, in general, people there are pigs and they did a lousy job cleaning...   

Uh.... no.  You are deriving far more from this single substantive sentence than you should:

"the Bureau of Land Management, the federal agency which oversees Burning Man, expressed concern about the number of folks pooping and peeing in the deep playa."

You see:

1. BLM mandates a 'zero impact' presence on the land
2. This means that a single pop can left over is a violation
3. As such, the event necessarily has to add 'leave no trace' as one of the *published* core principles that define the culture
4. in addition to pushing LNT, they of course have to provide services, paid and volunteers to manage, inspect and clean camping areas
5. Paradoxically, this also means providing NO GARBAGE BINS
6. in the end, the event is indisputably far cleaner than any other form of festival

Once I was in Queen's Park after the annual 4/20 weed march and there were clods of garbage everywhere, of course being cleaned up by the city.

So they can say that the festival left a 'mess' in the deep playa (which is one remote area of the event) however the bar is much higher.

Not just garbage...   they’re shitting where they shouldn’t.  https://www.rgj.com/story/life/arts/burning-man/2018/07/18/burning-man-ravers-stop-pooping-playa/792541002/
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2019, 05:43:30 am »
Hey Michael why your people turning the desert into an outhouse?

 -k

I don't have a lot of pride, but such accusations actually really bother me FYI.

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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2019, 09:56:12 am »
I don't have a lot of pride, but such accusations actually really bother me FYI.

They are shitting all over the ground!  It would bother me too....   it’s disgusting.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmk4me/bureau-of-land-management-burning-man-ravers-poop-bags-vgtrn

Don’t bury your head in the sand about the mess your festival makes....   you might get poop on your face!
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Online Michael Hardner

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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2019, 07:02:49 pm »
Ok, you're just yanking my chain.

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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2019, 07:57:57 pm »
Ok, you're just yanking my chain.

They really are pooping where they shouldn’t...  and creating more garbage than they’re allowed.   It’s certainly not a “no trace” event, despite what’s advertised.