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Re: Black troublemakers arrested at Starbucks
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2018, 01:40:34 pm »
Thanks.  Looks like an (unnecessary) grand gesture to me, but good on them for stepping up instead of avoiding and deflecting.

I imagine they have data that tells them how bad it would be for business if their Black customers boycotted.

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« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2018, 01:44:46 pm »
I imagine they have data that tells them how bad it would be for business if their Black customers boycotted.

It was more the grand scale of closing all Starbucks and re-educating 170,000 people at the same time that I was referring to.  Would have expected the usual approach of rolling workshops or something.  Anyway, as I was saying - Good on them for taking steps, even if it is just to avoid a boycott.  I guess.

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« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2018, 02:42:49 pm »
I imagine they have data that tells them how bad it would be for business if their Black customers boycotted.

More like how bad it would be for business if young urban hipsters and earnest (and largely knowledge-free) millennials who get their news from Facebook boycotted them.
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Re: Black troublemakers arrested at Starbucks
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2018, 02:47:09 pm »
More like how bad it would be for business if young urban hipsters and earnest (and largely knowledge-free) millennials who get their news from Facebook boycotted them.

You mean the types of people who are interested in opposing racism rather than ignoring/supporting it.
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« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2018, 02:51:12 pm »
young urban hipsters and earnest (and largely knowledge-free) millennials who get their news from Facebook boycotted them.

Not a lot different from an old Canadian guy who wasn't there, wasn't involved, has no knowledge of Starbuck policy or how the manager in question did or did not follow it, but has no problem absolving all the White people from blame, while assuming the Black guys were at fault because they didn't have suits on.  And they were black of course, but you are hardly honest enough to admit that.  Are you?
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« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2018, 02:51:30 pm »
You mean the types of people who are interested in opposing racism rather than ignoring/supporting it.

I mean self-righteous airheads like you.
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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2018, 02:52:06 pm »
Not a lot.different from an old Canadian guy who wasn't there, wasn't involved, has no knowledge of Starbuck policy or how the manager in question did or did not follow it, but has no problem absolving all the white people from blame, while assuming the Black guys were at fault because they didn't have suits on.  And they were black of course, but you are hardly honest enough to admit that.  Are you?

I did none of that, but don't let facts get in the way of your brainless leftist sniveling.
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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2018, 02:56:06 pm »
I did none of that, but don't let facts get in the way of your brainless leftist sniveling.

Backtracking, eh?  Your arguments have been;  "Manager followed policy, not her fault".  "Cops doing their job, not their fault."  "Businesses can throw people out for any reason they want".  "Black guys weren't wearing a suit, no wonder they were kicked out".

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« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2018, 02:59:50 pm »
I mean self-righteous airheads like you.

Whatever I am I prefer it to being a narrow minded xenophobe.

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Re: Black troublemakers arrested at Starbucks
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2018, 04:29:40 pm »
As a white privileged person would you tell the restaurant manager to go fuck himself if he told you the tables were for paying customers and you had to leave? Probably not. And if the police showed up and said the restaurant wanted you to leave would you hold your middle finger up to them and tell them you refused to leave?
Probably not.

Probably if I was waiting for friends and not clearly loitering.

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« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2018, 08:40:36 pm »
Backtracking, eh?  Your arguments have been;  "Manager followed policy, not her fault".  "Cops doing their job, not their fault."  "Businesses can throw people out for any reason they want".  "Black guys weren't wearing a suit, no wonder they were kicked out".

Lacking your amazing ability to read people's minds I have never claimed to know what is in the manager's. In fact, I said that several times. The cops WERE doing their jobs and businesses DO have the right to throw people out any time they want. As for the Black guys not wearing a suit, I merely replied to someone saying they were well-dressed.

But carry on bleating about me rather than discussing the issue.
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« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2018, 08:41:27 pm »
Probably if I was waiting for friends and not clearly loitering.

Waiting on friends while not making any purchases IS loitering.
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Re: Black troublemakers arrested at Starbucks
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2018, 08:41:55 pm »
Whatever I am I prefer it to being a narrow minded xenophobe.

Okay, bub. Take pride in being a sanctimonious moron.
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« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2018, 09:37:36 pm »
Waiting on friends while not making any purchases IS loitering.
Starbucks expects people to "loiter."
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The official acknowledged that the incident is at odds with what many people have done at a Starbucks without drawing suspicion or calls to police. The stores are “community hubs”, the official said, where people often drop in to use the wifi or chat with friends without necessarily ordering anything.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/starbucks-police-boycott-black-men-arrest-philadelphia-racism-a8305381.html




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Re: Black troublemakers arrested at Starbucks
« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2018, 09:47:45 pm »
Starbucks expects people to "loiter."https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/starbucks-police-boycott-black-men-arrest-philadelphia-racism-a8305381.html

Perhaps our buddy sir argus has never seen the inside of a Starbucks but presumes to be an expert regardless. Sounds about right.
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