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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #240 on: December 13, 2021, 01:02:58 pm »
Quote from: wilber on December 12, 2021, 08:05:23 pm
Max stops for new tires and the five cars between him and Hamilton are magically made to disappear. This was up there with the Spa farce. F1 has outsourced its officials to the WWE. Another Micheal Masi mess, Charlie Whiting must be rolling in his grave after watching this season. They better get rid of Masi before next year.

No one, other than Mercedes, wanted the race to end as a parade for the final 5 laps.  They did the right thing to resolve the championship through actual racing.  Mercedes are a bunch of sore losers.  They’ve been on top for 8 years and seem to have forgotten how to lose.
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« Reply #241 on: December 13, 2021, 10:09:31 pm »
Quote from: Squidward von Squidderson on December 13, 2021, 01:02:58 pm
No one, other than Mercedes, wanted the race to end as a parade for the final 5 laps.  They did the right thing to resolve the championship through actual racing.  Mercedes are a bunch of sore losers.  They’ve been on top for 8 years and seem to have forgotten how to lose.

They didn't though. Mercedes accumulated an over 11 second lead by actual racing, then a result was contrived, five cars were made to disappear so they could engineer a result. Horner even admitted to pressuring Masi to let the lapped cars through. Team principals shouldn't be allowed to talk to officials while the race is in progress. I don't care which team it is. Should coaches and managers be able to talk to VR officials when they are making calls in football for hockey games? This is no better than NASCAR where everything is contrived to give a close finish no matter how well a team performed or how much of a lead they got during the rest of the race. This is a billion dollar sport with bush league officiating . It isn't just this race, we have seen it all year. I've been a fan of this sport since the sixties but I'm at the point where I think I might as well be watching the WWE. If Masi isn't gone before next season, I don't think I will be watching.
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« Reply #242 on: December 14, 2021, 10:24:26 am »
Quote from: wilber on December 13, 2021, 10:09:31 pm
They didn't though. Mercedes accumulated an over 11 second lead by actual racing, then a result was contrived, five cars were made to disappear so they could engineer a result. Horner even admitted to pressuring Masi to let the lapped cars through. Team principals shouldn't be allowed to talk to officials while the race is in progress. I don't care which team it is. Should coaches and managers be able to talk to VR officials when they are making calls in football for hockey games? This is no better than NASCAR where everything is contrived to give a close finish no matter how well a team performed or how much of a lead they got during the rest of the race. This is a billion dollar sport with bush league officiating . It isn't just this race, we have seen it all year. I've been a fan of this sport since the sixties but I'm at the point where I think I might as well be watching the WWE. If Masi isn't gone before next season, I don't think I will be watching.

You could say the same about DRS helping create drama. No one wants to watch precession races. And the FIA ruled in favour of Mercedes earlier in the race.

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« Reply #243 on: December 14, 2021, 12:23:16 pm »
Quote from: Boges on December 14, 2021, 10:24:26 am
You could say the same about DRS helping create drama. No one wants to watch precession races. And the FIA ruled in favour of Mercedes earlier in the race.

DRS is the same for everyone, it is just part of the car like an engine or transmission and is enabled automatically. I don't see how they ruled in favour of Hamilton, he had no choice but to go off the track or Max would have gone into the side of him. The rules say you have to leave room when defending or passing. A collision would have given Max the championship even if they were both knocked out and he knew it. Schumacher either did or tried to do the same thing to opponents in the last race where championships were at stake. He did it to Hill and it worked and he tried to do it to Villeneuve and it almost worked. Who wants to watch a race that isn't decided on the track? You might as well watch WWE. The decision to allow the lapped cars by turned an 58 lap race into a one lap show by nullifying the first 57 laps and giving one competitor the decided advantage of a free pit stop plus a gain of track position at the same time. That's theatre, not racing.
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« Reply #244 on: June 13, 2022, 11:21:25 am »
F1 comes back to Montreal this week.

I'm one of those people that have started following the sport 1) because family had gotten into it 2) Drive to Survive works very well as a promotional tool.

I'm looking forward to see how the World sees one of Canada's Great cities. Way more attention will come vs 2019.
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Re: Auto Racing
« Reply #245 on: June 13, 2022, 11:45:52 am »
Quote from: Boges on June 13, 2022, 11:21:25 am
F1 comes back to Montreal this week.

I'm one of those people that have started following the sport 1) because family had gotten into it 2) Drive to Survive works very well as a promotional tour.

I'm looking forward to see how the World sees one of Canada's Great cities. Way more attention will come vs 2019.

I went to the Montreal race years ago.  I also went to the GP when it was at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.  Both were terrific experiences.

I plan on attending Montreal again in the forthcoming years and maybe Spa-Francorchamps.

Ferrari… WTF?  Double DNF at Baku.
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« Reply #246 on: June 13, 2022, 11:47:26 am »
I've been to the Molson indy, dirt track races, and the Daytona 500 four times.

Daytona was the most exciting of all of these by far.
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