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Offline wilber

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Re: Auto Racing
« Reply #210 on: June 21, 2021, 06:56:54 pm »
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Not his either.  Actually, it's kind of yours if you buy the products that he's pushing on the side of his car
I don’t really follow Indy Car. Not a big fan of ovals and street circuits. I don’t even know who he drives for.
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« Reply #211 on: June 27, 2021, 09:23:48 pm »
Great race today.  Very entertaining …. Lance Stroll had a good showing. 

Max is going to be tough to beat this year, as long as his Honda engine holds up. 

Bottas had another tough weekend…. Shooting himself in the foot with a penalty when he finally managed to beat Hamilton in qualifying.

Lando Norris continues to impress.
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« Reply #212 on: June 29, 2021, 07:27:26 pm »
Looks like Mercedes is basically ceding the championship to RB this year. Wolf said they will not be developing this years car beyond minor improvements in order to concentrate on next year. RB is still doing major upgrades to theirs.
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« Reply #213 on: July 03, 2021, 01:19:43 pm »
Lando P2,  0.04 seconds off pole. Is the McLaren that good or is it mostly Norris?  Russell puts Williams in Q3 for the first time since 2017 and on the medium tire. Is the Williams really improving or is it mostly Russell?

Mercedes P4 and P5, RB seems to be getting stronger. Not looking good for Merc.
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« Reply #214 on: July 03, 2021, 03:10:47 pm »
Quote from: wilber on July 03, 2021, 01:19:43 pm
Lando P2,  0.04 seconds off pole. Is the McLaren that good or is it mostly Norris?  Russell puts Williams in Q3 for the first time since 2017 and on the medium tire. Is the Williams really improving or is it mostly Russell?

Mercedes P4 and P5, RB seems to be getting stronger. Not looking good for Merc.

That was an entertaining qualifying. 

I think it’s a mix of Norris’ skill and the McLaren suiting particular tracks, like this one.  What this really points out to me is how poorly Ricciardo is doing. 
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« Reply #215 on: July 03, 2021, 04:54:49 pm »
I'm trying to think what the hell could be more boring than discussing auto racing. zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom,...... but carry on.
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« Reply #216 on: July 03, 2021, 06:31:55 pm »
Quote from: Omni on July 03, 2021, 04:54:49 pm
I'm trying to think what the hell could be more boring than discussing auto racing. zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom,...... but carry on.

So don’t.
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« Reply #217 on: July 03, 2021, 08:28:07 pm »
Quote from: wilber on July 03, 2021, 06:31:55 pm
So don’t.

I forgot to mention Russell!   Mega lap to get into the 3rd quali round!
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« Reply #218 on: July 03, 2021, 10:04:46 pm »
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I forgot to mention Russell!   Mega lap to get into the 3rd quali round!

On the medium tyre as well.
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Re: Auto Racing
« Reply #219 on: July 10, 2021, 01:33:13 pm »
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« Reply #220 on: July 18, 2021, 02:43:05 pm »
Entertaining race…. Except for Hamilton launching Max into the wall.  That was a bad move…. He was left enough space to stay on the inside, but was overly optimistic about a move at a corner where they’re going ~290km/hr

Then the penalty being so light wasn’t great to see.

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Not sure what to think about the sprint-race qualifying format….   I think I like it, as free-practice is rather dull.
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« Reply #221 on: July 18, 2021, 06:52:27 pm »
Quote from: the_squid on July 18, 2021, 02:43:05 pm
Entertaining race…. Except for Hamilton launching Max into the wall.  That was a bad move…. He was left enough space to stay on the inside, but was overly optimistic about a move at a corner where they’re going ~290km/hr

Then the penalty being so light wasn’t great to see.

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Not sure what to think about the sprint-race qualifying format….   I think I like it, as free-practice is rather dull.

I don't know, two guys going into a corner and neither willing to back out. Shades of the Lewis/Nico show. Also reminiscent of Schumacher.
Not the result you want to see but will make the rest of the season even more interesting.

Good to see Max has a clean bill of health and will be back for the next race. That was a scary hit.

140,000 in the stands, that must be a post Covid record crowd for anything so far.

I don't know about a race to determine grid position but it was an entertaining weekend. Friday was worth watching for a change.
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« Reply #222 on: July 18, 2021, 07:45:34 pm »
Quote from: wilber on July 18, 2021, 06:52:27 pm
I don't know, two guys going into a corner and neither willing to back out. Shades of the Lewis/Nico show. Also reminiscent of Schumacher.
Not the result you want to see but will make the rest of the season even more interesting.

They did give him a penalty, so he was deemed to be at fault.  There was enough room on the inside for Hamilton. 

The commentary used to be “you have to give them room on the inside”.  Now, when Hamilton punts his rival into the wall the commentary is “neither driver was going to back down”. 

The commentary from the F1 shows is very biased towards Hamilton.   He got a penalty, albeit a light one.


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I don't know about a race to determine grid position but it was an entertaining weekend. Friday was worth watching for a change.

My thoughts exactly….
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« Reply #223 on: July 18, 2021, 08:30:45 pm »
I agree the commentary isn't exactly balanced but they did show two instances of Max doing the same to Hamilton in other races with Lewis leaving the track and conceding the corner. Max initially gave him room and then for some reason turned in. If you watched the side by side cockpit footage you can see that Hamilton had quite a bit of lock on, it looked like he understeered into Verstappen, he didn't punt him. The point could be made that Hamilton shouldn't have been there in the first place and that's why he got the penalty.

Max is extremely talented driver but also an aggressive driver who is used to dominating opponents and that's one of the things that makes him great.

The gloves are off and Max now knows that Hamilton isn't going to always be the one to backs out in these situations. It will be interesting to watch the dynamic between them for the rest of the season.
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« Reply #224 on: July 19, 2021, 10:34:29 am »
Hamilton totally took Max out.

Isn't it pathetic that there are only really two teams that can even compete at winning a race? Give a Ferrari a gigantic head start and it'll still lose to a Mercedes that was in a crash.
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