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Re: Auto Racing
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2020, 09:19:52 am »
I’m of the opinion that there should be A LOT less electronics, drive modes, etc in F1 cars.  It’s crazy.  I think they should get rid of tire sensors...  make them manage the race by driver feel.  Race engineers telling drivers when to do every little thing is getting ridiculous, imo.

Not to take away from Norris’ last 2 laps of this race, since every driver is coached like this probably, but this video shows how ridiculous it is now...



Going to a single engine mode will probably get rid of a lot of that, no party modes or push to pass but let’s face it, these are the most advance hybrid systems in existence.  As long as the tires they are using are so critical, I think they need tire monitoring. Wish they would go back to the days when tires went the whole race. You could still have a mandatory stop for a tire change and teams could adjust their strategy to get the best out of them. Maybe it isn’t possible with the downforce these cars generate.
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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2020, 09:21:47 am »
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Re: Auto Racing
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2020, 11:44:01 pm »
Norris has a pizza helmet for Monza.
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2020, 03:23:38 pm »
Norris has a pizza helmet for Monza.

I know what all of those words mean, but I still can't parse that sentence.

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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2020, 10:44:26 pm »
I know what all of those words mean, but I still can't parse that sentence.

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His helmet is painted up as a pepperoni pizza. He says pizza is his favourite thing about Italy

The went through his qualifying lap compared to his teammate Sainz and the tiny things that make so much difference The difference between the two was 0.13 seconds. That 0.13 seconds was the difference between third and sixth on the grid. The difference between pole and second was 0.069 seconds.
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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2020, 01:53:31 pm »
His helmet is painted up as a pepperoni pizza. He says pizza is his favourite thing about Italy

Oh okay, now it all makes sense. First I was picturing something like the cheese wedges that Packers fans wear on their heads.  Then I was thinking maybe the Pizza Helmet was an honorary thing, kind of like the Yellow Jersey in bicycle racing.

The went through his qualifying lap compared to his teammate Sainz and the tiny things that make so much difference The difference between the two was 0.13 seconds. That 0.13 seconds was the difference between third and sixth on the grid. The difference between pole and second was 0.069 seconds.

I just did some quick math...  these cars can apparently go up to 340 km/h, and at that speed 0.13 seconds is a gap of 12 meters, which is about 2.5 car lengths.  So if they were racing next to each other it would look like a big difference.

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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2020, 07:46:01 pm »
That was a very entertaining race!   The underdogs came 1st, 2nd and 3rd in a topsey-Turkey race that had a bit of everything. 

Poor Ferrari...  they were dismal.

Great to see Canadian Lance Stroll on the podium in 3rd.  Unfortunately, he blew the re-start that occurred after the race was stopped by a big crash, otherwise he might have won it!

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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2020, 09:34:12 pm »
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. First I was picturing something like the cheese wedges that Packers fans wear on their heads.  Then I was thinking maybe the Pizza Helmet was an honorary thing, kind of like the Yellow Jersey in bicycle racing.

I just did some quick math...  these cars can apparently go up to 340 km/h, and at that speed 0.13 seconds is a gap of 12 meters, which is about 2.5 car lengths.  So if they were racing next to each other it would look like a big difference.

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Norris is becoming  known for his different helmets. At the British Grand Prix it was the one designed by the six year old.

Remember, it is a road course, not a straight line or oval, The fastest qualifying speed was 264 KPH average and that 0.13 seconds is the difference over a distance of 5.8 km. The difference between pole and second was seven one hundreds of a second.
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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2020, 09:39:07 pm »
That was a very entertaining race!   The underdogs came 1st, 2nd and 3rd in a topsey-Turkey race that had a bit of everything. 

Poor Ferrari...  they were dismal.

Great to see Canadian Lance Stroll on the podium in 3rd.  Unfortunately, he blew the re-start that occurred after the race was stopped by a big crash, otherwise he might have won it!

Happy something good happened for Gasly but McLaren were the big losers. By allowing cars the cars that hadn't stopped to change tires during the red flag, they really penalized those who had stopped during the previous yellow. The race should have been a McLaren one two with Gasly third.
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« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2020, 03:29:04 pm »
Perez is out next year at Racing Point (Aston Martin) while 4-time champ, Seb Vettel, is in.  Perez will land on his feet.  Haas maybe?  He brings a lot of Mexican sponsorship dollars, and Haas, being an American team, may like that. 

What’s also going to be great is another historic marque being in F1 starting next year in the form of Aston Martin.  They had a very limited run decades ago, so they don’t have much history with F1.   



What a gorgeous race car from simpler times!  (Much less safe times too....)

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« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2020, 03:53:09 pm »
That's interesting, I'm glad Vettel will still be in F1, I like Seb.  He has his moments but is a no BS kind of guy and a thinker. Haas or Williams for Perez would be my guess. The new owners of Williams might have different ideas about drivers. My guess is Russell would be safe because he is a Mercedes development driver and has done a good job in a terrible car. I also think he has another year on his contract.

Aston Martin didn't have much of a F1 history but the cars sure were pretty. So were the sports cars that did win at LeMans.

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« Reply #42 on: September 10, 2020, 05:32:47 pm »
Prognosticators are mentioning Alfa Romeo as a possibility for Perez. Will Kimi retire or will they replace him? I don't see an Italian team getting rid of Giovinazzi, the only Italian driver currently in F1.

Racing Point (Aston Martin) must be rolling in cash if they can afford to dump a driver who brings big sponsorship bucks for a driver who demands millions in salary. An interesting fact about Vettel, he is one of the few (maybe the only) high profile athlete who doesn't do endorsement deals.
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« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2020, 06:05:55 pm »
Prognosticators are mentioning Alfa Romeo as a possibility for Perez. Will Kimi retire or will they replace him? I don't see an Italian team getting rid of Giovinazzi, the only Italian driver currently in F1.

Kimi is likely to retire.  I think Haas would be a better fit for Perez, but I’m sure any F1 team will do!

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Racing Point (Aston Martin) must be rolling in cash if they can afford to dump a driver who brings big sponsorship bucks for a driver who demands millions in salary. An interesting fact about Vettel, he is one of the few (maybe the only) high profile athlete who doesn't do endorsement deals.

Stroll is a billionaire with billionaire backers.  He bought Aston Martin to get the marque into F1.  Aston Martin wasn’t equipped to do anything like this until Stroll came along. 

I had no idea that Vettel didn’t do endorsements.  (Other than team obligations to their sponsors probably, right?).  I’ve always liked Vettel as a driver. 
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« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2020, 09:50:14 pm »
Kimi is likely to retire.  I think Haas would be a better fit for Perez, but I’m sure any F1 team will do!

Stroll is a billionaire with billionaire backers.  He bought Aston Martin to get the marque into F1.  Aston Martin wasn’t equipped to do anything like this until Stroll came along. 

I had no idea that Vettel didn’t do endorsements.  (Other than team obligations to their sponsors probably, right?).  I’ve always liked Vettel as a driver.

Apparently Stroll owns 17% of Aston Martin but that probably makes him the largest shareholder. I found out about Vettel not doing endorsements in an article about the world highest paid athletes. He and Hamilton were the only ones in the top 40 although Verstappen and Leclerc will probably be on the next one .
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