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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2021, 10:23:07 pm »
Quote from: SuperColinBlow on September 20, 2021, 11:14:22 pm
It is genetic in my case. And since it comes from both sides of the family (though both my parents were lucky to escape it, and I'm assuming it is a recessive gene) my brother and sister have it too. Fun times.

I'll likely be on medication my whole life, as I think I went into "partial remission" after getting the new TMS treatment rather than total remission. (Some tms patients do.) I'm having it done again in a couple months. But suffice to say that after having the TMS treatment, the medicine actually works. It was doing a half-assed job before, and in my case--not saying you're wrong to try to treat your anxiety in other ways--other, non-medicinal treatments are ineffective, since we're talking about full-blown bipolar disorder here.

I do hope you get better. People don't realize how crippling mental problems like anxiety, depression, bipolar, etc are.

I agree bipolar disorder, schizophrenia etc are almost always genetic disorders.  Probably in my case as well, but who knows.

Thank you I hope you keep getting better as well.
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Offline The Cynic

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2021, 05:12:23 pm »
Never really had a problem until this year. A medical condition led to constant pain, and with it stress. I didn't realize my morning queasiness was due to the previous night's stress for weeks. I thought it was due to overuse of pain pills. Nope it was anxiety causing it. Once I confronted it I was able to make it go away. The queasiness, that is, not the stress and anxiety.

Stress is dangerous. It causes poisons to be released into your body. It increases pain and increases your perception of pain, as well as screwing up your digestion, heart and general thinking. I've started in on pure CBD oil, but found it unhelpful. Now trying full spectrum CBD oil, though that will take weeks to take effect, if it does.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2021, 05:50:57 pm »
Exercise - even a daily walk, less caffeine, good natural sleep and even naps

All of this helps

Stress relief from natural sources.

Less screen time too but ... well yeah ....
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Offline Dia

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2021, 06:25:38 pm »
Quote from: SuperColinBlow on September 19, 2021, 11:23:53 am
I can relate. I've suffered from bipolar disorder & depression my whole life. There are better times, and not so better times. More than a year ago, I was prescribed a new(ish) treatment called Transcranial Magnetic sounding (TMS) which has been FDA approved in the US for some years now. I feel way better. My doc wants me to have another round of treatment soon. I might be one of those who has to have it every couple years. Some patients get full remission of symptoms. It's completely painless too. Way better than the older ECT treatment.

People don't realize how screwy it is to have some sort of invisible disability like anxiety/depression/bipolar/etc. and how miserable one's life can be with it.

I was recently diagnosed with bipolar 2.  It's manifested as long periods of depression with shorter periods of hypomania.  I believed the hypomanic periods were how people felt normally, but apparently not. 

I've usually been treated for depression, since I'd go to the doc when I got seriously depressed.  Anti-depressants worked, sort of, but never lasted long.

Now I'm on a mood stabilizer called lamotragine and Abilify, and my mood has definitely stabilized.  It's only been 3 months, so will see how it goes.  I'm going to ask my doc about TMS, although I suspect it won't be covered by my medical plan.  It'd be ideal if I could stay in a hypomanic state, imo, but I suppose there might be downsides.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2021, 09:41:47 am »
Quote from: SuperColinBlow on September 20, 2021, 11:14:22 pm
People don't realize how crippling mental problems like anxiety, depression, bipolar, etc are.

My work place promotes a culture of mental health, talking about how people should not stigmatize mental ill-health, and offering resources for people who might be struggling.  I am lucky in that I could take time off to  regain my own health. 

And then I had my performance review and one of the goals suggested to me was to improve my attendance.  If I was ill, and they supported my efforts to get myself well, it confuses me as to why this would be brought up - it is a mixed message, I think:  "Sure we understand you were sick, but come to work anyway"?  Would the same goal be suggested if someone had suffered a severe physical trauma that kept them home for six weeks?

There've been two suicides among our 130 staff members in the last few years.  After the second one, the messaging on mental health became a lot more insistent.  But I think I'll suggest somewhere that if one is mentally ill and dealing with it means taking some time off work, that absence shouldn't be noted in the performance review.







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Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2021, 09:59:57 am »
Quote from: Dia on September 24, 2021, 09:41:47 am
1. My work place promotes a culture of mental health, talking about how people should not stigmatize mental ill-health, and offering resources for people who might be struggling.  I am lucky in that I could take time off to  regain my own health. 

2. And then I had my performance review and one of the goals suggested to me was to improve my attendance.  If I was ill, and they supported my efforts to get myself well, it confuses me as to why this would be brought up - it is a mixed message, I think:  "Sure we understand you were sick, but come to work anyway"?  Would the same goal be suggested if someone had suffered a severe physical trauma that kept them home for six weeks?

3. There've been two suicides among our 130 staff members in the last few years.  After the second one, the messaging on mental health became a lot more insistent.  But I think I'll suggest somewhere that if one is mentally ill and dealing with it means taking some time off work, that absence shouldn't be noted in the performance review.

1. This seems to be the way now but... does the walk match the talk ?  I am very good about giving people time off no matter what but they HAVE to ask for help.  I can be harsh if people don't ask for help and I probably have to work on it.

2. Yes, I don't think I would allow my managers to put that feedback into anyone on the team.

3. That's ... sobering.  I haven't had to deal with that at work.  A few deaths, the death of a friend's son in an avalanche, a young guy who died in a freak bike accident in his 20s, a mis-identified executive who was mistakenly thought to have killed himself (and that took a harrowing full day to sort out), a death of a client's child which I didn't communicate well on... sadness but we have to be humans first.



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Offline The Cynic

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2021, 10:42:42 am »
Quote from: MH on September 23, 2021, 05:50:57 pm
Exercise - even a daily walk, less caffeine, good natural sleep and even naps

All of this helps

Stress relief from natural sources.

Less screen time too but ... well yeah ....

All good suggestions. Unless pain keeps you in bed all day, makes it very hard to sleep, and the is ultimately the source of most of your stress and anxiety. And screen time is all you do all day.
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