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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #120 on: November 25, 2022, 05:34:46 pm »
I think you're thinking of Seth Rogan.

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« Reply #121 on: November 26, 2022, 05:08:22 am »
1. Anti-Woke bank not doing well
2. "Banks have gone too far left" they say
3. They will focus on shareholder value - presumably because other banks don't
4. There's a sucker born every minute

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anti-woke-bank-closes-3-months-peter-thiel-toby-neugebauer_n_638006b4e4b06ef4a542ab6d

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« Reply #122 on: November 26, 2022, 01:06:45 pm »
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anti-woke-bank-closes-3-months-peter-thiel-toby-neugebauer_n_638006b4e4b06ef4a542ab6d

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Not surprised, one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard of. Last thing I would want or invest in is a bank that was focused on everything but looking after money.
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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #123 on: November 26, 2022, 02:38:10 pm »
Providing value for money is actually something that's not rooted in rhetoric.

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #124 on: November 27, 2022, 11:11:18 am »
I still haven't seen any evidence that woke is not a synonym for "basic human empathy."

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #125 on: November 29, 2022, 05:02:34 pm »


Apple, a company with a market cap of $2.25 TRILLION is Marxist. This is a bigger denial of reality than saying men can get pregnant lol.

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #126 on: November 29, 2022, 06:39:36 pm »
It's fun watching the corporate class try to tear each other down. More please.

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #127 on: November 29, 2022, 08:19:43 pm »
Dickrider posts will be removed on sight. Keep that nonsense to the designated dickrider thread.
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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #128 on: November 29, 2022, 09:18:44 pm »
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anti-woke-bank-closes-3-months-peter-thiel-toby-neugebauer_n_638006b4e4b06ef4a542ab6d

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Lots of brands use wokeness as a marketing ploy, it was only matter of time before somebody tried the opposite.


Apple, a company with a market cap of $2.25 TRILLION is Marxist. This is a bigger denial of reality than saying men can get pregnant lol.

I think that a lot of major brands, I suspect Apple among them, do a lot of progressive messaging to distract people from how greedy they are.  Like how every June companies adorn their websites and physical locations with Pride decor. You can't go anywhere in June without seeing rainbows and the new Progress Flag. Then in July...



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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #129 on: November 29, 2022, 09:29:28 pm »
1. Lots of brands use wokeness as a marketing ploy, it was only matter of time before somebody tried the opposite.


2. I think that a lot of major brands, I suspect Apple among them, do a lot of progressive messaging to distract people from how greedy they are.  Like how every June companies adorn their websites and physical locations with Pride decor. You can't go anywhere in June without seeing rainbows and the new Progress Flag. Then in July...



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1. You mean people start "woke banks" all the time to attract a customer base that hates anti-woke?  Because that would be the equivalent.

2. Yes, and there's no equivalent of that either.  There's no big brands touting themselves as anti-woke to get clients.

I can tell the corporate world is lying to me.  I don't think that they're able to be sincere about anything but shareholder return.

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« Reply #130 on: November 29, 2022, 09:32:13 pm »
I still haven't seen any evidence that woke is not a synonym for "basic human empathy."

The key difference is that while progressives believe in "basic human empathy", the woke believe that only people from certain marginalized groups (ie, BIPOC or genderfabulous) are deserving of empathy. The way the school board is handling the Oakville teacher fiasco is a prime example. All their empathy is reserved for the trans individual; the boring cisgender women and girls get none of that "basic human empathy" stuff.

Progressives believe in empathy; the woke believe in certain articles of dogma, and they believe in punishment of those who won't toe the line.

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #131 on: November 29, 2022, 09:37:44 pm »
1. You mean people start "woke banks" all the time to attract a customer base that hates anti-woke?  Because that would be the equivalent.

2. Yes, and there's no equivalent of that either.  There's no big brands touting themselves as anti-woke to get clients.

Meh. I get what you're saying, but at its core the corporate virtue signalling efforts are an attempt at marketing to a hypothetical customer that wants to do business with a company that holds certain values.  And this "anti-woke bank" idea sounds like an effort to pander to a hypothetical customer that wants to do business with a completely different set of values. I don't see them as being particularly different in philosophy.

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #132 on: November 30, 2022, 07:03:16 am »
The key difference is that while progressives believe in "basic human empathy", the woke believe that only people from certain marginalized groups (ie, BIPOC or genderfabulous) are deserving of empathy.
Really? Because in the Netflix recommendations thread, "woke" just meant a diverse Star Wars cast.

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #133 on: November 30, 2022, 08:00:00 am »
The way the school board is handling the Oakville teacher fiasco is a prime example. All their empathy is reserved for the trans individual; the boring cisgender women and girls get none of that "basic human empathy" stuff.

 

It's always a jump for me when people make a guess, with certainty, at what motivates institutions and corporations beyond the obvious which is:

-institutions don't want to get in trouble via their political nbosses
-corporations want to make money and therefore don't want to evoke boycotts

In the case of a school board, you seem to attribute wokeness to the people making the decisions here which ignores the highly volatile nature of the process.  And all of this topic ignores the rightness/wrongness of any of it.  I'm just talking pure pragmatism and self-interest.

For the school board you have an issue which is the political equivalent of C4 putty sitting there.  The board is faced with the forces of media, parents, woke mob (as you would call it), the anti-woke protestors and Freedom folk, teachers, unions, students - all in a circle around this purported cross-dressing troll - and nobody wants to grasp the hot potato.


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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #134 on: November 30, 2022, 08:03:53 am »
Meh. I get what you're saying, but at its core the corporate virtue signalling efforts are an attempt at marketing to a hypothetical customer that wants to do business with a company that holds certain values.  And this "anti-woke bank" idea sounds like an effort to pander to a hypothetical customer that wants to do business with a completely different set of values. I don't see them as being particularly different in philosophy.

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You can say all of these things without contradiction:

1.  Corporate virtue signalling, however cynical, happens.
2. People are hyping up "wokism" for their own purposes and this includes priming people who fear the bogeyman so they join a scam bank.

You can oppose "woke" policies while still acknowledging that wokism is being overhyped.  And none of this amounts to me telling people to "not talk about it".