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Offline Bubbermiley

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #135 on: November 30, 2022, 07:03:16 am »
The key difference is that while progressives believe in "basic human empathy", the woke believe that only people from certain marginalized groups (ie, BIPOC or genderfabulous) are deserving of empathy.
Really? Because in the Netflix recommendations thread, "woke" just meant a diverse Star Wars cast.

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« Reply #136 on: November 30, 2022, 08:00:00 am »
The way the school board is handling the Oakville teacher fiasco is a prime example. All their empathy is reserved for the trans individual; the boring cisgender women and girls get none of that "basic human empathy" stuff.

 

It's always a jump for me when people make a guess, with certainty, at what motivates institutions and corporations beyond the obvious which is:

-institutions don't want to get in trouble via their political nbosses
-corporations want to make money and therefore don't want to evoke boycotts

In the case of a school board, you seem to attribute wokeness to the people making the decisions here which ignores the highly volatile nature of the process.  And all of this topic ignores the rightness/wrongness of any of it.  I'm just talking pure pragmatism and self-interest.

For the school board you have an issue which is the political equivalent of C4 putty sitting there.  The board is faced with the forces of media, parents, woke mob (as you would call it), the anti-woke protestors and Freedom folk, teachers, unions, students - all in a circle around this purported cross-dressing troll - and nobody wants to grasp the hot potato.


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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #137 on: November 30, 2022, 08:03:53 am »
Meh. I get what you're saying, but at its core the corporate virtue signalling efforts are an attempt at marketing to a hypothetical customer that wants to do business with a company that holds certain values.  And this "anti-woke bank" idea sounds like an effort to pander to a hypothetical customer that wants to do business with a completely different set of values. I don't see them as being particularly different in philosophy.

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You can say all of these things without contradiction:

1.  Corporate virtue signalling, however cynical, happens.
2. People are hyping up "wokism" for their own purposes and this includes priming people who fear the bogeyman so they join a scam bank.

You can oppose "woke" policies while still acknowledging that wokism is being overhyped.  And none of this amounts to me telling people to "not talk about it".

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #138 on: December 02, 2022, 01:22:07 pm »
After deleting Kanye West's account for "inciting violence" for posting a picture of a swastika/star of David mashup, Twitter restores a notorious neo-Nazi's account.

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Andrew Anglin, founder of the neo-Nazi publication The Daily Stormer, has been allowed back on Twitter, even as platform owner Elon Musk banned Kanye West for being a Nazi sympathizer.

Anglin was kicked off Twitter in 2013. The Southern Poverty Law Center describes him as “a prolific internet troll” and a “serial harasser,” while it says The Daily Stormer “nurtured a new generation of white supremacists online.”

This oughta bring the advertisers back lol.

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #139 on: December 12, 2022, 10:33:55 am »
Muskrat continues his slide into the far right, posting conspiracy theories about Fauci funding gain of function research in Wuhan and mocking trans people.

And then Dave Chappelle brought him on stage at a show and he got his ass booed lol

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The crowd erupted into a mixture of cheers and boos, before the boos clearly won out, according to footage posted on Twitter. [Update, 6:40 a.m. ET: The footage appears to have been deleted from Twitter for some reason, but you can still watch it below.] The booing got louder as Musk wandered around onstage with a microphone in hand. Musk started pacing and waving, clearly unsure what to do about such a negative reaction.

Chappelle simping for Musk is sad and reminds me of a line from a far superior comic:

it's a big club and you ain't in it.
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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #140 on: December 23, 2022, 11:23:00 am »
Hooting and hollering at this.


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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #142 on: January 11, 2023, 01:50:46 pm »
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A conservative federal judge who has said she won't hire law clerks from Yale Law School to protest "cancel culture" on its campus on Tuesday told students at its rival Harvard that law schools need to "step up" and do more to encourage free speech on campus.

In Yale's case, she said the "straw that broke the camel's back for me" was an event in March at which students disrupted a campus discussion with a conservative lawyer, Kristen Waggoner of the Alliance Defending Freedom.

She said that was why when U.S. Circuit Judge James Ho, a fellow Trump appointee on the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in September called for judges to boycott hiring students from Yale in protest, she followed suit in hopes of promoting change.

Branch argued law schools like Harvard and Yale should be doing more to enforce "robust speech codes" that make disrupting speeches on campus an offense and warned that student protesters who threaten speakers risk criminal prosecution.


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Cancel culture is when someone protests a conservative, but when I blackball students from schools who I think are too woke, that's free speech.

These people are morons.

Also, lol:

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"The easiest course of action will be to cave into the mob," Branch said. "But I assure you, you lose a little bit of your soul when you do that. Stand up, hold firm. I assure you that no one ever respects anyone who caves."

Both Ho and Branch have suggested they could call off their planned boycott. Ho at an event at Yale University with Branch in November said the school appeared to recognize a "course correction" was needed.

"Don't cave to the mob. Cave to us!"

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2023, 01:04:57 pm »
For the school board you have an issue which is the political equivalent of C4 putty sitting there.  The board is faced with the forces of media, parents, woke mob (as you would call it), the anti-woke protestors and Freedom folk, teachers, unions, students - all in a circle around this purported cross-dressing troll - and nobody wants to grasp the hot potato.

I know this is old, but I'm new here. 

I'm generally on the side of "woke" (I think?) but what bothers me is that folks treat obvious ridiculousness as radioactive waste that must be tip-toed around.



This is either the biggest troll of the century, or serious mental illness.  Either way, as soon as he showed up to school like this, the administration should have sent him home and his Board should have supported it and hired the lawyers. 

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #144 on: January 17, 2023, 01:13:00 pm »
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/halton-district-school-board-oakville-trafalgar-high-school-transgender-teacher-dress-code

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After four months of international uproar, the Ontario school board employing a gender transitioning teacher who wears enormous and sexualized prosthetic breasts under tight-fitting tops inside the classroom agreed teachers need to “maintain appropriate and professional standards of dress.”

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #145 on: January 17, 2023, 01:27:01 pm »
  Either way, as soon as he showed up to school like this, the administration should have sent him home and his Board should have supported it and hired the lawyers.

You don't think the way they do.

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #146 on: January 17, 2023, 01:29:14 pm »
I guess not, but I'm not sure what thinking they're doing.  I don't generally care about this stuff, but this was absurd.  If we are tip-toeing around even absurdity like this, we actually do have a problem. 

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #147 on: January 17, 2023, 01:33:40 pm »
I guess not, but I'm not sure what thinking they're doing.  I don't generally care about this stuff, but this was absurd.  If we are tip-toeing around even absurdity like this, we actually do have a problem.

They're thinking is "how can we manage this without getting sued into the ground?"
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« Reply #148 on: January 17, 2023, 01:53:25 pm »
Understood, but that's a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.  There is a line, somewhere, isn't there?  When I first read about this, I thought the teacher was trolling "woke culture" to show how silly it could get.  I'm still not entirely convinced that isn't what happened here.   :P

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Re: Anti-woke culture
« Reply #149 on: January 17, 2023, 01:56:10 pm »
Understood, but that's a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.  There is a line, somewhere, isn't there?  When I first read about this, I thought the teacher was trolling "woke culture" to show how silly it could get.  I'm still not entirely convinced that isn't what happened here.   :P

The problem here is they didn't have a dress code for staff so any attempt to enforce a non-existent policy would be challenged. I dunno how much deeper you need to go than that.



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