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Historically most of the persecution in western countries and Eastern Europe has come from so called Christians. I don’t think Muslims are much into painting Swastikas, that’s more a white supremacist/Nazi thing.

It's happening all over Europe currently by Muslim immigrants.  They tend to direct their anger about being excluded from the society of their host countries towards Jews.  Christian antisemitism existed for Centuries, but has been extremely rare since World War 2.
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I was just at Rady last week and there was no unusual additional security. What are you referring to?

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I was just at Rady last week and there was no unusual additional security. What are you referring to?

When you walk in at the front doors.  There is a security desk with security guards you ahve to pass by.  I also had to explain why I was there. That never happened when I would occasionally go there between 1997-2004.  There was no security desk there, IIRC.
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It's happening all over Europe currently by Muslim immigrants.  They tend to direct their anger about being excluded from the society of their host countries towards Jews.  Christian antisemitism existed for Centuries, but has been extremely rare since World War 2.

Maybe but persecution of Jews in Europe dates way back before Muslims arrived, never mind the Holocaust. Multiple expulsions from France from the 10th Century right up to the Revolution, thrown out of England by Edward 1, thrown out of Spain by Ferdinand and Isabella, multiple programs in Czarist Russia, etc. There is a very long list.

It doesn't help that people like Trump are letting these people come out from under their rocks without being challenged.
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Jean Marie Le Pen, former leader of France's FN Party is an avowed anti semite and Holocaust denier. So bad, his daughter turfed him from the party trying to make it more respectable. Anti semitism is alive and well in Europe, it just might not have a religious face.
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Maybe but persecution of Jews in Europe dates way back before Muslims arrived, never mind the Holocaust. Multiple expulsions from France from the 10th Century right up to the Revolution, thrown out of England by Edward 1, thrown out of Spain by Ferdinand and Isabella, multiple programs in Czarist Russia, etc. There is a very long list.

It doesn't help that people like Trump are letting these people come out from under their rocks without being challenged.

I found it really strange that the Trump Administration brought a excommunicated "rabbi" from a  Messianic Judaism temple to speak on behalf of the Jewish community.  He proceeded to praise Yeshua (Hebrew name for Jesus), and pray for the Trump Administration, leaving out any mention of the victims.  That could not ahve been an accident.
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I found it really strange that the Trump Administration brought a excommunicated "rabbi" from a  Messianic Judaism temple to speak on behalf of the Jewish community.  He proceeded to praise Yeshua (Hebrew name for Jesus), and pray for the Trump Administration, leaving out any mention of the victims.  That could not ahve been an accident.

And then there was Charlottesville and all those "fine people".
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And of course we had our own James Keegstra.

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And of course we had our own James Keegstra.

Coincidentally, when I resided in Red Deer around 2005-06, I met a girl I dated, who moved to Eckville, after her divorce was finalized. I jokingly told her "don't mention anything about Jim Keegstra."  A couple of weeks after her move, she told me that nobody in town mentions him, and it kind of a hush-hush type thing in town, as ABC did a TV movie on the Keegstra affair in the 90s, making all people in town look like rednecks. He passed away a few years ago, but people in town were not pleased with the reputation it received back in the 80s, and the negative media attention in the 90s
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Coincidentally, when I resided in Red Deer around 2005-06, I met a girl I dated, who moved to Eckville, after her divorce was finalized. I jokingly told her "don't mention anything about Jim Keegstra."  A couple of weeks after her move, she told me that nobody in town mentions him, and it kind of a hush-hush type thing in town, as ABC did a TV movie on the Keegstra affair in the 90s, making all people in town look like rednecks. He passed away a few years ago, but people in town were not pleased with the reputation it received back in the 80s, and the negative media attention in the 90s

I guess if you allow a man with such racist views to become a high school teacher it will come back to haunt.
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The vast majority of offenders, and nearly all violent attacks are caused by Muslim immigrants.  The Yellow Vest movement was strong in France for a couple of months.  Jews have been physically attacked by Muslims for decades.
What attacks? Where?

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Asking again ... why are perps never identified in such hate crimes?
 

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Asking again ... why are perps never identified in such hate crimes?

France, which is home to the largest Jewish population in Europe, also hosts a large Muslim community.
The relationship between the two communities has deteriorated steadily as the politics of the Middle East has reverberated in France.
It's visible in the working-class Parisian suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois, which once had a thriving Jewish community.
The community center and synagogue were once full. But a member of the community told CNN the numbers have dropped dramatically.
Fear has forced many to leave for other parts of Paris or in some cases, leave the country altogether.

Malika, a local Muslim resident who didn't give CNN her last name, says she is sad to see members of the Jewish community move away from the area, but it doesn't surprise her.
"They are right to be afraid because the conflict in Palestine has reached here and that's why we're in this situation," she said.
"When I see a Jew next to my place, or on the street I say: 'We are the same family.' They have nothing to do with what's going on in Palestine. They are afraid for their children and that's crazy."

source: https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/30/europe/france-antisemitism-fear-poll-intl/index.html

"But for residents like Joanna Galilli, this area in northwestern Paris represents a tactical retreat. It has become a haven for many Jews who say they have faced harassment in areas with growing Muslim populations. Ms. Galilli, 28, moved to the neighborhood this year from a Parisian suburb where “anti-Semitism is pretty high,” she said, “and you feel it enormously.”

“They spit when I walked in the street,” she said, describing reactions when she wore a Star of David."

source: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/27/world/europe/france-new-anti-semitism.html

Cases:

Ilan Halimi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ilan_Halimi

Mireille Knoll: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Mireille_Knoll

Sarah Halimi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sarah_Halimi

Toulouse and Montauban shootings:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_and_Montauban_shootings

Hypercacher kosher supermarket siege: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercacher_kosher_supermarket_siege

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I guess if you allow a man with such racist views to become a high school teacher it will come back to haunt.

His views about Jews and Holocaust denial were not well known, until well into his teaching career. There are no Jews in Eckville, so there were no complaints, as students never really questioned Keegstra, who was very popular in the community.  It was not until a Catholic student showed his homework to his mother, that finally action was taken, and complaints made.

One may not understand, coming from a large urban centre, how this could possibly happen. However, small rural communities are not the same as urban centres, and students and parents often are less likely to report a teacher, especially considering this occurred in the 70s and early 80s.  Considering Keegstra was mayor of the town at the time, many were afraid of retaliation. In fact, students who did not adhere to his antisemitism, were often given poor grades, as opposed to the students who accepted his teachings as gospel.

An excellent article about the Keegstra affair from the Edmonton Journal: https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/paula-simons-jim-keegstras-haunted-legacy-hate-monger-forced-alberta-to-confront-its-dark-demons
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His views about Jews and Holocaust denial were not well known, until well into his teaching career. There are no Jews in Eckville, so there were no complaints, as students never really questioned Keegstra, who was very popular in the community.  It was not until a Catholic student showed his homework to his mother, that finally action was taken, and complaints made.

One may not understand, coming from a large urban centre, how this could possibly happen. However, small rural communities are not the same as urban centres, and students and parents often are less likely to report a teacher, especially considering this occurred in the 70s and early 80s.  Considering Keegstra was mayor of the town at the time, many were afraid of retaliation. In fact, students who did not adhere to his antisemitism, were often given poor grades, as opposed to the students who accepted his teachings as gospel.

Regretfully it took 14 years before a parent finally pointed out what was really going on. Where they all unaware before that? I wonder.