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Offline Bubbermiley

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« Reply #450 on: September 24, 2022, 09:06:53 am »
Most people aren't even aware of their influences.
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« Reply #451 on: September 24, 2022, 11:29:38 am »
I guess not - but I spent about 20 minutes reading "best band" and "best song" lists that he himself wrote with his own handwriting, said in his own words... probably 50-100 groups, songs etc.

Kind of strange that he wouldn't mention Young but it's all speculation from either of us here.  In terms of the "sound", he was 100% into "American ****" - that was what he listened to, and where he played.  So, yes, he listed Meet the Beatles and Aerosmith in an interview here and there but he played with the meat puppets, listed every record by Melvins, a couple by Half Japanese and some group called The Wipers that I never heard of...

Anyway... as I say it's guesswork.

That’s why my post said “I don’t know about Nirvana specifically” and then went on to talk about grunge in general.

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« Reply #452 on: September 26, 2022, 08:34:11 am »
Can't talk about Nirvana influences without these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPBbWVYuNLQ

Ok.  I listened to their first EP.... not a recommended option for a Monday AM. 

To be clear: THIS IS NOT MY KIND OF MUSIC.  I prefer Dave Brubeck Take Five day and night... BUT...

I am able to see influences, and cultural movement in all of these and it's fascinating.  For this EP I will confess I didn't see the worth but since it is cited so often I assume that it was original material.  Like a lot of influential stuff, it sounds kind of unremarkable maybe because it was diluted by galaxies of imitators.  I will continue to listen to more from Melvins.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=melvins+ep

The thing to note about it is that it's heavy and slow, much closer to the boomer rock of Black Sabbath and such... and that's perfectly ok.  ( I don't like that genre either by the way.  Sabbath was mocked when they came out, but then again so were The Smiths, The Monkees, Be Bop etc. etc.)

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« Reply #453 on: September 26, 2022, 11:13:36 pm »
If Elvis never listed southern gospel as an influence in a Teen Beat article, would that mean he wasn't influenced by it?

If you can find anything from the band saying that Neil Young was a significant influence on their sound by Nirvana then i'll be convinced.
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« Reply #454 on: September 26, 2022, 11:20:07 pm »
It is also exactly the style of music that Crazy Horse has always created.

Neil Young is from the 60's folk-rock scene and then distorted it.  He's not punk, he's not rebelling against the technical guitar solos of the 70's.  He's rhythm guitar guy who sometimes plays not very technical solos with the skill of a 1960's rhythm guitar guy.

Like I said, I think much of the similarity of their clothing style and sound is largely coincidental.  Working class dudes playing rock.  Their genres overlapped, and they wear similar clothes.
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« Reply #455 on: September 27, 2022, 12:07:48 am »
If you can find anything from the band saying that Neil Young was a significant influence on their sound by Nirvana then i'll be convinced.

Cobain quoted Young’s lyrics in his suicide note…. And you’re saying there was no influence?
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« Reply #456 on: September 27, 2022, 05:09:02 am »
If you look online, Kobain cited dozens and dozens of contemporaries and even older bands as influential, or just faves.  As I posted above, I couldn't find Young anywhere.

But obviously that song resonated for obvious reasons.

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« Reply #457 on: September 27, 2022, 07:34:00 am »
Did he list Louis Armstrong and Bing Crosby? They invented and popularized modern singing, respectively, so you really won't find anyone who isn't, in some way, influenced by them.
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« Reply #458 on: October 18, 2022, 12:36:02 pm »
Was considering putting this in the dead celebrity thread (he's not dead, but his career is) but Kanye West's descent into madness continues. Now he's buying dud conservative social media platform Parler

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Parler was founded in 2018 and saw rapid growth surrounding the 2020 election. Billing itself as a loosely moderated free-speech haven, the app became popular with conservative politicians and media figures, peaking at an estimated 2.9 million daily users, according to the market research firm Apptopia. But since then, its fortunes have dimmed, with Parler’s estimated daily user count slipping to just 40,000, Apptopia told CNN on Monday. (Twitter, by comparison, has more than 237 million daily active users.)

Also worth pointing out that Ye's been hanging around with right-wing griftluencer Candace Owens (she did the "White lives Matter" T-shirt stunt with him) and her husband is the CEO of Parler, so it sure looks like she's been hustling Kanye to take his money.
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« Reply #459 on: December 01, 2022, 03:26:12 pm »
Kanye went on Info Wars with Alex Jones today to...praise Hitler?

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“Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler,” Ye continued. “Also Hitler was born Christian.”

As the show headed to a commercial break, Jones told Ye he had a “Hitler fetish,” to which Ye responded, “I like Hitler.”

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« Reply #460 on: December 02, 2022, 12:46:05 pm »
Yeah...TYT YouTube channel posted a compilation of the interview.

Alex Jones squirmed and fake laughed as Ye said "I like Hitler"

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« Reply #461 on: December 14, 2022, 09:24:39 pm »
Neil Young is from the 60's folk-rock scene and then distorted it.  He's not punk, he's not rebelling against the technical guitar solos of the 70's.  He's rhythm guitar guy who sometimes plays not very technical solos with the skill of a 1960's rhythm guitar guy.

Uh...what?
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« Reply #463 on: December 15, 2022, 06:38:35 am »
Thanks for posting that version of Helpless. I hadn't seen it before and it's very nice.
But Neil is also one of the most distinctive electric guitar soloists alive. I don't think Rock James would have let him in the Mynah Birds if he wasn't.

Did I ever tell my wife's boss's story about how Bob Dylan came lurking around his house one day before a show in Winnipeg because the boss owns Neil's teenage-years home? Bob got the full tour.

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« Reply #464 on: December 15, 2022, 09:39:33 am »
Thanks for posting that version of Helpless. I hadn't seen it before and it's very nice.
But Neil is also one of the most distinctive electric guitar soloists alive.

That's the key.  Neil is left behind in the dust by Clapton's technique.

But players like Young make the guitar a second voice and make true art with sound that way.