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Then change it.  The premier has to respect religion, no matter what others think.

Sorry, what?   The Consttution forces a Premier to follow certain misogynist religious practices?   Please explain.

Any religion? Everything about that religion and its beliefs?

And which sects?   Hasidic Judaism where a man would never sit next to the Premier?   Does the Constitution force her to respect those religious beliefs too?

I still don’t understand how MH thinks that works.... 

Then change it.  The premier has to respect religion, no matter what others think.

She has to respect it. She doesn't have to endorse it.

Yeah, or in other words she follows the charter of rights.

Yes.  News Flash: it is acceptable by definition because it's in our charter of rights.  If you don't believe me ask Mother Flannagan, the lady priest.  OH THAT'S RIGHT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ISN'T REQUIRED TO GIVE WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS.

Jeez.

Many of the world's religious would consider me an abomination for one reason or another.  I respect their right to that belief, but in no way would I endorse it by feigning approval of their shitty ideas or by gracing one of their facilities with my presence.

I don't see why Wynne needs any explanation for cancelling her gig at the Mucho Italiano He-Man Woman-Haters Club.

And, as Goddess proposes, I question why she wouldn't apply the same standard when it comes to hanging out at a mosque where, if she weren't premier, she'd be shunned for her sexual orientation and made to sit at the back of the room with the rest of the women.

She can respect their right to hold their beliefs without showing up at their mosque.

That photo-op where Justin and Catherine McKenna and what's-her-name showed up at the mosque made me want to puke.   I think that next time Ms McKenna goes to a mosque she ought to be seated where the rest of the women are made to sit instead of sitting herself up front like she's somehow better than the rest of the women. Is she better than the rest of the women in the mosque? If not, she ought to sit with the rest of the women in the mosque.  What does it say about the mosque that they're willing to give the white non-Muslim VIP special privilege that the Muslim women aren't deemed worthy of?  Gross!


Michael, I appreciate that you Catholic pukes, and the evangelical turds, and Muslim creeps, and Pentacostal dirtbags, and all the rest, have every right to believe that I'm a piece of crap who'll be going to Hell for at least 5 different reasons.  I respect your right to your beliefs, but I'm not under any obligation at all to respect those shitbag beliefs in and of themselves.  So take your freaking religious freedoms and blow them out your ass.




Jeez.

 -k

Cognitive dissonance.

Progressive liberal ideology believes in moral and cultural relativism which extends to religion.  Female subjugation in Islam is a matter of cultural difference and we must remain inclusive and multicultural in this regard, so they maintain.

Nope...  the Conservative Party is no different with respect to religion...   maybe for slightly different reasons...   but they have no qualms about a religion treating women like 2nd class citizens...  as long as it’s the right religion....   

Waldo....   defender of the faith...   

Come on guys...   Muslim men just don’t want to show butt crack to the ladies...    it’s all about modesty!

Nope...  the Conservative Party is no different with respect to religion...   maybe for slightly different reasons...   but they have no qualms about a religion treating women like 2nd class citizens...  as long as it’s the right religion....

Agreed.

I would go further and say that ISIS/Islamic terrorism is a conservative movement and is right wing terrorism.

I’ve been to mosques. In fact, attended a mosque on Xmas day last year while in New Dehli.

The mosque is creepy like too much of India: mostly men around just like throughout the towns and cities. It was truly an odd feeling as the western “****” in our tour group were openly ogled, clicked at, and got to see young men grab a fistful of **** ‘n balls since they dared to be independent and enter the public sphere (and immodestly to boot).

As for Wynne, sure one can make the case that she is the Premier and therefore should respect religious bullshit since our Constitution allows said bullshit and she is the Premier of all, even the racsists, sexists, and homophobes within mosques for that matter.

Or, she could of said: it is wrong for people to take the lives of others over their differences in belief (no matter how stupid said belief is) just like it is wrong to enter a mosque from a side door because, ****, and, therefore, she will pass on the mosque until they can civilize themselves because it is 2015 (or 16 or 17).

perhaps you should add this gem to your India travelogue! I didn't experience your fortunate exposure... but then again the mosques I've been at were here in Canada. Clearly Wynne, as the Ontario Premier "to all, as you say", opted not to follow your lead and instead made a mindful and respectful visit in order to deliver, again, a most symbolic/sympathetic response to a terror act perpetrated against Muslims in a QC mosque. From your words I can see why you would favour this message/gesture being conflated... but I'm most confused in your expressed concerns for practitioners of, as you say, religious BS... 'civilizing themselves'.

I’ve read the Old Testament, New Testament, and Koran so I know what a bunch of hillbilly crap it is in the first place.

Written by ignorant fools, spread through indoctrination and fear.

whether you recognize it or not, right or wrong, for many religion is a mainstay in a meaningful/fulfilled life. I trust some wag won't leverage the hypocrisy angle of the thread and call out your anti-religious expressions in relation to 'supposed' concerns for Muslim women in mosques.