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Offline SirJohn

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Re: What public service job
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2017, 10:36:06 am »
If people think they can make more money using their skills in a different country, why wouldn't they move?

My point is they can't, because we make more than anywhere else.

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But in any case, why shouldn't they be?  Is it because you think you pay too much in taxes?

Because there's something wrong with the optics of someone working two jobs with few benefits and a limited pension paying tax to support overpaid public servants with higher salaries and benefits than he has - especially where those are undeserved. I'm all for paying people with limited skill sets enough to ensure we have enough of them. I'm opposed to paying more than we have to in order to get enough capable employees to do a job. There's something wrong with the idea that if you go to a smaller urban center most of the people with the biggest houses and incomes will be cops, firefighters and teachers.

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All the people whose income you'd happily decrease also pay taxes.  They buy a lot of stuff with their discretionary income.

Yes, but all the money they pay in taxes comes from the tax money used to pay them. Your argument only functions where these employees are being paid a proper salary for the job we need done. If we're paying a lot more to them than is necessary or is deserved then it's simply wrong.

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Public service employees number over three million in Canada.  How do you suppose reducing the incomes of over three million Canadians would actually work out, in practice?

I don't think you understand. Government is a service. It's a costly service. Where it does what is needed doing that's fine. Where it does it efficiently that's great. But if its service grows in cost it becomes a burden on the economy and helps no one. Using your argument we could improve the economy and the country by doubling the salary of all the public servants. No, we're all better off where the service costs are minimized.

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You'd be wrong.  Australia, the Netherlands, the US and Belgium all pay their doctors more on average.

The figures they give are not believable. It says the figure for Canada is $107k for GPs and $161k for specialists. That sounds too low to me.

Keep in mind, the amount varies based on doctors’ specialties though: family physicians make about $271,000 while medical specialists make about $338,000 and surgical specialists earn $446,000.
https://globalnews.ca/news/2898641/how-much-is-your-doctor-making-what-you-need-to-know-about-canadas-physician-workforce/


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Really?  You think three million people make up the bulk of the middle class in a country of 36 million? 

There aren't 36 million workers. There are about 15 million.

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But aside from that, I thought everyone below middle class didn't pay enough taxes, or any, or something - so the government is supported almost entirely on the income level into which you (claim) you fall.  But look, today you are all worried about the 'lower income earners'.  Hahaha. 

No need to be snotty - though you always manage to. The statistics on who pays what comes straight from the government. So it's not a matter of my opinion. As for 'my claim' that I'm in the upper income bracket, anyone can claim anything over the internet. You can claim you\re not Muslim, for example. But I put it to you that I'd have little motivation to be bitching and complaining about taxes so much if I wasn't paying any.,
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