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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #105 on: September 11, 2020, 11:53:00 am »
Here's the worst thing working against WE:

What do they do ?

Why is there a charity out there getting so much funding and attention and nobody knows what they do ?

What’s stopping you from using Google? 

Not that I am for the Libs giving sole source contracts for $900 million to a charity that paid the PM’s mom and brother a bunch of money, but it’s not difficult to find out what the charity does. 

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« Reply #106 on: September 11, 2020, 12:04:28 pm »
They even have financial statements, impact statements, descriptions of their board, etc. on their website.

https://www.we.org/en-CA/about-we/about-us
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« Reply #107 on: September 11, 2020, 01:16:32 pm »
Here's the worst thing working against WE:

What do they do ?

Why is there a charity out there getting so much funding and attention and nobody knows what they do ?

They do a lot of education programs that teachers can use in the classroom to get rids involved and active with global development issues.  That seems like at least half their mandate.  They also do some work overseas to actually help the poor.  As stated by others, it's on their website, I looked it up yesterday.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #108 on: September 13, 2020, 08:31:49 am »
They do a lot of education programs that teachers can use in the classroom to get rids involved and active with global development issues.  That seems like at least half their mandate.  They also do some work overseas to actually help the poor.  As stated by others, it's on their website, I looked it up yesterday.

So.... it's a parallel education system and some charity drives. 

When I said 'nobody', I meant that their goals aren't commonly known.  That is unusual for a charity.  Can you name another one like that ?  I'm somewhat familiar with their activities, generally, but people have been questioning them to me privately in the past. 

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« Reply #109 on: September 13, 2020, 11:01:14 am »
Here's the worst thing working against WE:

What do they do ?

Why is there a charity out there getting so much funding and attention and nobody knows what they do ?
So.... it's a parallel education system and some charity drives. 

When I said 'nobody', I meant that their goals aren't commonly known.  That is unusual for a charity.  Can you name another one like that ?  I'm somewhat familiar with their activities, generally, but people have been questioning them to me privately in the past.

oh FFS! Pissin' on its grave now, hey! Again, thanks to an obliging media helping fuel the Opposition driven fake "scandal"... WE Charity in Canada is no more - and this is what you now decide to ask?
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: WE Scandal
« Reply #110 on: September 13, 2020, 11:38:48 am »
oh FFS! Pissin' on its grave now, hey! Again, thanks to an obliging media helping fuel the Opposition driven fake "scandal"... WE Charity in Canada is no more - and this is what you now decide to ask?

Everybody needs a eulogy.  Caesar got one from Brutus.

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« Reply #111 on: September 13, 2020, 11:53:56 am »
Everybody needs a eulogy.  Caesar got one from Brutus.
I thought they supported youth engagement and volunteering in support of greater equity and sustainability. That's what WE day was all about.

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« Reply #112 on: September 13, 2020, 11:55:36 am »
I thought they supported youth engagement and volunteering in support of greater equity and sustainability. That's what WE day was all about.

As I said - parallel education.  In conversation with teachers, they questioned the value of WE day from awhile back.  The question is not whether any could come out of it, it's - again - "what is the value for the cost" ?

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« Reply #113 on: October 18, 2020, 11:50:58 am »
Canadaland's Jesse Brown, #pigeonPierre and NDPAngus continue their attempts/wants to keep the obliteration of the WE charity in the news! Former journalist, now lawyer, Mark Bourrie continues to shine light on Brown's antics:

Quote from: Mark Bourrie - Oct 12, 2020
I am afraid this is what journalism has come to in Canada: pack reporting; feeding frenzies on people and organizations that don’t fight back; poorly-sourced, rushed, incomplete and superficial work; politically-motivated hack work.

WE, one of the very few great charities started in Canada, was collateral damage in a third-rate political controversy. It sickens me to know that people I once considered colleagues were either caught up in the frenzy or were too cowardly to try to speak against it.

So let’s sum this up. To believe WE was founded and run by crooks, you have to buy into the idea that a downtown Toronto forensic accounting firm, a former top official in the Ontario Solicitor General’s office who now runs an investigation firm, a retired Ontario Court of Appeal Judge (Stephen Goudge),  who reviewed WE’s operations and real estate holdings and wrote a report saying they were legitimate, an international accounting firm that handles WE’s money in Kenya, and a small army of consultants who have advised WE on best practices over the years, are either incompetent or corrupt.

Or you can believe Jesse Brown, Pierre Polievre and Charlie Angus.
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« Reply #114 on: January 26, 2021, 09:31:45 am »
All of that outrage... do Conservatives still care about this?  :D

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« Reply #115 on: January 26, 2021, 09:49:55 am »
All of that outrage... do Conservatives still care about this?  :D

They’ve moved on to several other outrages since. It must be exhausting.

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« Reply #116 on: January 26, 2021, 10:38:18 am »

Canadian journalism's smugness is proven by a statement like this:

"I’m still not sure why Brown went after the Kielburgers and their charity"

Also - equating Brown to vessels like The Rebel is dishonest.  He has had plenty of respected journalists work with them and worked on issues across the political spectrum...

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« Reply #117 on: January 26, 2021, 10:45:12 am »
Bourrie also was reported on by Canadaland for accepting contracts from Mike Duffy (along with Ezra Levant) so let's not be too quick to accept his word.

https://www.canadaland.com/duffy-senator-paid-journalists/

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« Reply #118 on: January 26, 2021, 11:13:13 am »
They’ve moved on to several other outrages since. It must be exhausting.
Is it just me or has COVID revealed to us how seemingly impotent the oppositional aspect of democratic governance is?

Maybe in the spirit of building back better we could refashion our governance too. Perhaps opposition parties that don't win control of the government could win a consolation prize, control of our institutions of accountability and oversight. If you run a clean government and the opposition didn't find anything out of order they'd have to work a little harder to offer something better. OTOH...

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« Reply #119 on: January 26, 2021, 11:52:16 am »

1. Maybe in the spirit of building back better we could refashion our governance too.
2. Perhaps opposition parties that don't win control of the government could win a consolation prize, control of our institutions of accountability and oversight. If you run a clean government and the opposition didn't find anything out of order they'd have to work a little harder to offer something better. OTOH...

1. I have been only saying this for 20 years.
2. How about taking things OUT of the political arena of combat ?  Like human rights discussions, governance of crown corps, and Canadian identity issues ?  Make all party committees with massive citizen involvement and input.  Do real-time polling and foster discussions.