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Offline waldo

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Re: WE Scandal
« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2020, 01:08:49 pm »
You blather on about the unfair media while at the same time post a plethora of articles from that same media which you believe support your argument. You sound more like a Trump supporter every day.

say what? Per your norm, you've reverted to making shyte up! I've provided ONE article extract from the NP... oh, and ONE reference from the CNW aggregator. This is your described "plethora of articles"?  ;D

c'mon member wilber - do better/be better!

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« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2020, 01:43:10 pm »
Ya right. I meant to cover the costs, if I ever got around to asking what they were. The guy is a Cabinet minister for Christ sake, incompetence is being polite.

Oh yeah, I said at best case scenario he's incompetent.  That's if we take his word at face value.

Personally, I don't think it's plausible to 'forget' such a commitment. 

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« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2020, 01:47:42 pm »
member BC_cheque, notwithstanding your broadly applied innuendo, you implied overall incompetence - yet somehow, when directly asked to address what your preferred Finance Ministers would have done differently... done better... you choose to revert back to the same travel cost item.



so ya, ignore the big picture in favour of continuing to spew innuendo over chumpChange!

I don't understand what you're saying here. 

Are you asking me what I would've like him to do differently during a pandemic?  If so, I'm not getting into a thread drift about CEWS/CERB because they are completely irrelevant to the WE scandal's 'chump change' $40K forgotten reimbursement.

If you're asking something else, please clarify.

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« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2020, 07:58:26 pm »
Oh yeah, I said at best case scenario he's incompetent.  That's if we take his word at face value.

Personally, I don't think it's plausible to 'forget' such a commitment.
You would think the first thing a minister would ask is who is paying and where is the money coming from? Any MP really but especially members of government.
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« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2020, 09:05:28 pm »
https://twitter.com/JesseBrown/status/1278819248014532609

The Kielbergers apparently had a private investigator looking into Jessie Brown's (Canadaland) wife and kids.

They claim this is 'standard' for preparing for a libel lawsuit.  The chair of the WE board said she thought speakers weren't paid ?

Waldo - I'm beginning to think there may be something afoot here !!!  ;D ;D ;D

Good for Canadaland finally getting some attention, by the way... They put this story forward last year as I recall. 

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« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2020, 08:50:03 am »
Are you asking me what I would've like him to do differently during a pandemic?  If so, I'm not getting into a thread drift about CEWS/CERB because they are completely irrelevant to the WE scandal's 'chump change' $40K forgotten reimbursement.

as I said, you stated overall incompetence based solely on the $41K... while broadly speaking to, as you stated, your preferred type of Finance Minister; other than your junkyard dog focus on the $41K you also stated you weren't particularly enamored with steps taken during the pandemic. Just thought you could easily support your broad based incompetency labeling - apparently not!

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« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2020, 09:04:29 am »
The Kielbergers apparently had a private investigator looking into Jessie Brown's (Canadaland) wife and kids. They claim this is 'standard' for preparing for a libel lawsuit.

who is your "They claiming"? Apparently if one is looking for a most reputable litigator, one skilled/expert in defamation matters, that lawyer mentioned is highly sought out. How am I not surprised that you'd think your Canadaland boy was someone above & beyond being held to account for things he says/writes - go figure!

The chair of the WE board said she thought speakers weren't paid ?

I do believe this reflects upon the distinction between actual WE Day speaking and any other ancillary events beyond. As confirmed during yesterday's testimony, speakers are not paid for appearing as a part of the WE Day event itself.

Waldo - I'm beginning to think there may be something afoot here !!!  ;D ;D ;D

given the superficial level you appear to be at in reviewing this fake scandal, I'm not surprised you would think so.

Good for Canadaland finally getting some attention, by the way... They put this story forward last year as I recall.

you've got blinders on; try a googly - there's certainly no shortage of critical comment/review available concerning your fav Canadaland!

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« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2020, 09:15:20 am »
after the fact viewing of how the best of the CONDP conducted themselves during yesterday's appearance of the WE Charity's Kielburger brothers... anyone care to offer support for the behavior of CPC Poilievre & CPC Cooper and NDP Angus?  ;D

video is available! C'mon, go for it...

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« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2020, 09:20:26 am »
who is your "They claiming"?

The lawyers who were carrying it out.

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Apparently if one is looking for a most reputable litigator, one skilled/expert in defamation matters, that lawyer mentioned is highly sought out. How am I not surprised that you'd think your Canadaland boy was someone above & beyond being held to account for things he says/writes - go figure!

How does that have anything to do with finding out which schools his kids went to ?

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I do believe this reflects upon the distinction between actual WE Day speaking and any other ancillary events beyond. As confirmed during yesterday's testimony, speakers are not paid for appearing as a part of the WE Day event itself.

given the superficial level you appear to be at in reviewing this fake scandal, I'm not surprised you would think so.

Well, I see a headline that raises my eyebrows.  I write it down here.  'Superficial level' ?  Maybe I'm just not interested in spending time investigating claims.  I suggest it's because - although I think the Liberals are adequate - I don't have the odd fiery compulsion to make sure that they are defended as being perfect on these pages.

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you've got blinders on; try a googly - there's certainly no shortage of critical comment/review available concerning your fav Canadaland!

He's better than some newspapers at engaging with criticism and correcting/apologizing when necessary.  The static and comfortable Canadian press needs someone who is not connected to power to publish such things.

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Re: WE Scandal
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2020, 04:37:40 pm »
Since this site is back.

Let's hear everyone say how JT isn't corrupt AF for sole sourcing 900 mil to this company.

Not to mention members of his family and finance minister getting freebies from the company.

Nothing to see here?

While your details might not be completely accurate (it isn't about $900M), I'm not going to defend this. It's wrong, and though it may not have been intentional (hard to believe) it isn't right, and was very avoidable. Waldo is all by his lonesome here.
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« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2020, 05:02:58 pm »
Waldo should also not worry too much about the impact, IMO

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« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2020, 06:53:33 pm »
How does that have anything to do with finding out which schools his kids went to ?

you stated: "The Kielbergers apparently had a private investigator looking into Jessie Brown's (Canadaland) wife and kids."

as I interpret, the investigation company (that specializes in background checks) was contracted by the litigator specializing in defamation... that's 2 levels beyond the persons you're attributing your stated "looking" to.

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« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2020, 07:21:38 pm »
Let's hear everyone say how JT isn't corrupt AF for sole sourcing 900 mil to this company.
While your details might not be completely accurate (it isn't about $900M), I'm not going to defend this. It's wrong, and though it may not have been intentional (hard to believe) it isn't right, and was very avoidable. Waldo is all by his lonesome here.

accurate??? As I understand, it was the independent public service that reviewed 20 organizations before deciding upon WE... then recommending WE. The agreement struck was between the public service and WE... for up to $500 million - all of which would have been distributed to students. Keilberger testimony yesterday had them suggest the actual figure would more likely be in the $300 million area based upon their expectations on the number of students and how many hours they respectively would have volunteered. More pointedly, again per the agreement, WE would not receive any money beyond the cost of administering the program (directly and indirectly over partner companies/non-profits). The admin fee that WE would receive was graduated based upon the number of students engaged... and the admin fee was only for eligible expenses as determined per the agreement struck between the public service and WE.

given the actions of weakAndy & Jugmeat, students now have lost out - job well done by the CONDP!




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« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2020, 08:03:37 pm »
you stated: "The Kielbergers apparently had a private investigator looking into Jessie Brown's (Canadaland) wife and kids."

as I interpret, the investigation company (that specializes in background checks) was contracted by the litigator specializing in defamation... that's 2 levels beyond the persons you're attributing your stated "looking" to.

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WOW.  You got me.

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« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2020, 09:48:53 pm »
WOW.  You got me.

Why would they have even thought to “look into” the journalist’s wife and kids in a “defamation issue”?
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