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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2020, 03:19:56 am »
there's no asking you to, as you say, "cut some slack". Prior to having you broadly (without substance/detail) imply Morneau's overall incompetence, the reference point you offered was the $41K. Highlighting his prior donations in the order of an amount double that is simply providing perspective on his charitable focus/nature... more pointedly, the guy has a significant wealth that precludes the need for you to shovel innuendo!

since you claim to be "in Finance", perhaps you could speak to what/how the Finance Ministers you, as you say, prefer... would have done it differently... better... in terms of, as you say, handling the pandemic. Make sure to highlight incompetence since, up to now, you're solely relying upon that $41K amount as the determiner.

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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2020, 03:42:18 am »
there's no asking you to, as you say, "cut some slack". Prior to having you broadly (without substance/detail) imply Morneau's overall incompetence, the reference point you offered was the $41K. Highlighting his prior donations in the order of an amount double that is simply providing perspective on his charitable focus/nature... more pointedly, the guy has a significant wealth that precludes the need for you to shovel innuendo!

since you claim to be "in Finance", perhaps you could speak to what/how the Finance Ministers you, as you say, prefer... would have done it differently... better... in terms of, as you say, handling the pandemic. Make sure to highlight incompetence since, up to now, you're solely relying upon that $41K amount as the determiner.

I would expect my company to fire me (and likely sue me) if I ever 'forgot' to pay back material personal expenses.  It would bring into question my capacity to look out for the interest of the company and it would also bring into question if there are any other memory lapses that simply have not yet surfaced.

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« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2020, 07:41:14 am »
I actually don't care too much about this.

More of the same for JT. The CPC is leaderless and COVID-19 is more important, he'll be fine.

But member waldo's frantic defence of JT was well worth the wait.  ;D

I will say, much of the revelations of this scandal came from Canadaland and the CBC. ConMedia? really?
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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2020, 09:25:37 am »
Anyone else here remember when there was a thing called ministerial accountability and ministers would. Step aside  while these enquires were in progress or even actually resign?
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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2020, 10:33:05 am »
since you claim to be "in Finance", perhaps you could speak to what/how the Finance Ministers you, as you say, prefer... would have done it differently... better... in terms of, as you say, handling the pandemic. Make sure to highlight incompetence since, up to now, you're solely relying upon that $41K amount as the determiner.

member BC_cheque, notwithstanding your broadly applied innuendo, you implied overall incompetence - yet somehow, when directly asked to address what your preferred Finance Ministers would have done differently... done better... you choose to revert back to the same travel cost item.



so ya, ignore the big picture in favour of continuing to spew innuendo over chumpChange!

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« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2020, 10:41:38 am »
I actually don't care too much about this.

But member waldo's frantic defence of JT was well worth the wait.  ;D

nothing frantic here... that's just you so used to the other board's echo chamber. Testimony given to-date confirms neither PM Trudeau or Minister Morneau had any involvement, any engagement with the public service that chose WE, then recommended WE. But yes, they both should have recused themselves when that recommendation made its way to Cabinet. Riddle me this member Boges: do you expect those respective recusals would have changed... anything... anything beyond yet another pumped up fake scandal from the CPC (aided & abetted by Jugmeat and an obliging media)?

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« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2020, 10:47:39 am »
Anyone else here remember when there was a thing called ministerial accountability and ministers would. Step aside  while these enquires were in progress or even actually resign?

examples of the 'ministerial accountability' you're pining for... the "step asides, the resignations"?

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« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2020, 11:03:00 am »
examples of the 'ministerial accountability' you're pining for... the "step asides, the resignations"?

Used to be the established practice back in the seventies and before, now it is hang on until you are dragged out. Not a Liberal phenomena, it's common to all parties now.


Must be tough times for waldo when even the Liberal supporters on this forum aren't buying it.
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« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2020, 11:09:05 am »
there's no asking you to, as you say, "cut some slack". Prior to having you broadly (without substance/detail) imply Morneau's overall incompetence, the reference point you offered was the $41K. Highlighting his prior donations in the order of an amount double that is simply providing perspective on his charitable focus/nature... more pointedly, the guy has a significant wealth that precludes the need for you to shovel innuendo!

since you claim to be "in Finance", perhaps you could speak to what/how the Finance Ministers you, as you say, prefer... would have done it differently... better... in terms of, as you say, handling the pandemic. Make sure to highlight incompetence since, up to now, you're solely relying upon that $41K amount as the determiner.

I would say that incompetence would be the nicest thing you could say about a minister who takes trips like this without even asking who is paying the bills.
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« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2020, 11:18:38 am »
Anyone else here remember when there was a thing called ministerial accountability and ministers would. Step aside  while these enquires were in progress or even actually resign?
examples of the 'ministerial accountability' you're pining for... the "step asides, the resignations"?
Used to be the established practice back in the seventies and before, now it is hang on until you are dragged out. Not a Liberal phenomena, it's common to all parties now.

so ya gots nuthin then, hey!  ;D

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« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2020, 11:26:24 am »
I would say that incompetence would be the nicest thing you could say about a minister who takes trips like this without even asking who is paying the bills.



"trips like this"!  ;D Ya, there's a few vids circulating now showcasing just what those trips were about - certainly NOT the lavishLivin portrayals pushed by weakAndy et al. But of course, you lapped it all up - yet another fakeScandal that is finally now being countered with actual facts beginning to surface.

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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2020, 11:28:13 am »
http://dtpr.lib.athabascau.ca/action/download.php?filename=mais/KathleenMcLeodFinalProject_Revised.pdf

This refers to accountability under Harper but is common to all parties these days. Now it seems ministers aren't even accountable for their own actions, let alone their departments. Unless of course your name is JWR or Philpott and you cross JT.
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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2020, 11:30:44 am »


"trips like this"!  ;D Ya, there's a few vids circulating now showcasing just what those trips were about - certainly NOT the lavishLivin portrayals pushed by weakAndy et al. But of course, you lapped it all up - yet another fakeScandal that is finally now being countered with actual facts beginning to surface.

Ya right. I meant to cover the costs, if I ever got around to asking what they were. The guy is a Cabinet minister for Christ sake, incompetence is being polite.
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« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2020, 11:46:27 am »
http://dtpr.lib.athabascau.ca/action/download.php?filename=mais/KathleenMcLeodFinalProject_Revised.pdf

This refers to accountability under Harper but is common to all parties these days. Now it seems ministers aren't even accountable for their own actions, let alone their departments. Unless of course your name is JWR or Philpott and you cross JT.

you should actually read your own linked reference... it certainly doesn't highlight your pined for Ministerial accountability - it showcases the unaccountable Harper Conservative Ministers who pushed off that accountability to the public service!

so encouraging to read you showcasing yet another fake scandal pushed by weakAndy/CPC and an obliging media (Con or otherwise) - nice to read you're still so buttHurt over being schooled so many times within those SNC related threads.

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« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2020, 12:08:20 pm »
you should actually read your own linked reference... it certainly doesn't highlight your pined for Ministerial accountability - it showcases the unaccountable Harper Conservative Ministers who pushed off that accountability to the public service!

so encouraging to read you showcasing yet another fake scandal pushed by weakAndy/CPC and an obliging media (Con or otherwise) - nice to read you're still so buttHurt over being schooled so many times within those SNC related threads.

I was making an observation about the decline in Canadian politics in general, the Conservatives are no less guilty than the Liberals. You blather on about the unfair media while at the same time post a plethora of articles from that same media which you believe support your argument. You sound more like a Trump supporter every day.
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