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Some facts are better than others. But you are right that a certain amount of subjectivity enters into the question. That said, the description, is more than just a label - it is a shorthand that means "this person that I disagree with is advocating policies that may sound virtuous but, IMO, actually do nothing or cause harm". This makes it a more meaningful descriptor than simply calling someone an idiot or wrong.

So are you saying that Waldo correcting your "facts" is virtual signalling?

I let waldo have the last word because that is the only way to stop a thread from getting derailed with an off topic argument. That does not mean waldo's "facts" have any connection to reality.

Um, who took it off topic in the first place? Yes, I brought up Paris but as an example of people going beyond virtue signalling, and what makes you think your facts are reality and his not?

You crazy fuckers can't talk about anything without turning it into a climate change wank-off, can you.

 -k

I could bring Muslims into it ...

(ducking and running)

 

I could bring Muslims into it ...

(ducking and running)

 

I did that previous page and couldn't even get a nibble.

 -k

No one has defined what “virtue signalling” actually means, not even the OP.

My post from the previous page:

conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling

Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.[1] The term was first used in signalling theory, to describe any behavior that could be used to signal virtue—especially piety among the religious.[2] In recent years, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action.[3][4]

plagiarism. The opposite of virtue signalling.


A non-political example of virtue signalling:  Tim Tebow.  Many many football players are devoutly religious, but Tim Tebow was the guy who became a hero for American evangelicals because he was out there making a great production of his religiosity while on-field.  When the Broncos ditched Tebow to acquire Peyton Manning, Pat Robertson said he hoped that God would injure Manning's neck to punish the Broncos for what they did to poor Tim Tebow. Which is awful, and also ironic because Manning himself is a deeply religious man.

A lot of evangelical Christianity in general is virtue-signalling... making a great public show of their religiosity and devotion to Jesus while doing nothing to promote virtues that Jesus actually represented.  It's all for the benefit of their peers, so that they can be seen as fitting in.  It is, as Omni the Wikipedia entry says, to enhance their standing among their group.


A recent example of virtue signalling:  when the Toronto Hijab Girl story first broke, there was a massive outbreak of virtue signaling among politicians. A bunch of empty statements whose only value was to show everybody that they're not racists. Primary message of these tweets: "I'm a good person!"

A while back during the McGregor vs Mayweather thread somebody burst in to tell everyone that combat sports are barbaric. The point of that post?  "Everybody look at me, I'm sophisticated and civilized!"

That's virtue signaling.

 -k

Ok, so there's no getting past the subjectivity.

I disagree.

In your view, carbon reduction policies are "virtue signalling" and you believe you have facts to back that up.

Demanding Canada implement a policy which will be highly, highly, highly expensive and yet will accomplish NOTHING of substance could be seen as virtue signaling.

Demanding Canada implement a policy which will be highly, highly, highly expensive and yet will accomplish NOTHING of substance could be seen as virtue signaling.

Apparently you don't understand the science behind GW, or the term virtue signalling.