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Offline JMT

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Re: Vaccine prioritizing based on race?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2021, 08:08:33 pm »
The point is you target priority communities based on data and sound science, not feelings.  We shouldn't be prioritizing people based on race, we should be prioritizing populations based on risk of infection and death.

That's what is being done. The data says that certain racial makeups are more affected by this.
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Re: Vaccine prioritizing based on race?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2021, 10:46:52 am »
I find this disturbing:

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/racialized-canadians-vaccine-priority-1.5911952

There's NOTHING about someone's skin colour that makes them more vulnerable to COVID.
It's interesting that you claim this so certainly when epidemiologists who study the social distribution of health and illnesses claim otherwise. If the vaccines need to be triaged, then I have no problem with higher risk groups getting it before me. Fact of the matter is there's social consequences to being a racialized Canadian that often leads to living less affluent areas, closer quarters, with more roommates, etc. There's also plenty of evidence that racialized Canadians get sub-standard first-contact care, as their "complaints" get dismissed more readily. There are plenty of factors here that interplay with race to make people more vulnerable, if you take the time to read about it. No, you're right. It's not directly race itself but rather the consequence of a society that makes racialized people more vulnerable due to generations of discrimination that continues today.
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Re: Vaccine prioritizing based on race?
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2021, 10:50:25 am »
Itís the same stupid arguments people use not to vaccinate prisoners.   It doesnít feel right to give prisoners priority, despite what the data actually tells us should happen.
I got into a discussion about this with an elderly family member. I gently reminded him that if he were in a care home that he would be living on top of other people, increasing his exposure risk. Then I asked him to consider how much worse those conditions are in prison. Knowing withholding healthcare from prisoners is inhumane, especially when you consider most people in prison aren't there because they're the sensationlized horror movie killers you think of.
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Re: Vaccine prioritizing based on race?
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2021, 10:52:04 am »
From what I heard on the CBC this morning they are prioritizing communities where people are more susceptible.  Of course that will be more racialized but also not completely racialized.

I for one don't need another right-left argument about nuances in racism... etc. etc. etc.  There are white people who live in Galway, Scarborough... they will get it beside their black neighbours.  Stop feeding the alt-right, centrist, liberal and progressive trolls people.

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Re: Vaccine prioritizing based on race?
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2021, 12:46:30 am »
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From what I heard on the CBC this morning they are prioritizing communities where people are more susceptible.  Of course that will be more racialized but also not completely racialized.

And this makes logical sense.  And I don't have a problem with race being a variable, but not to the exclusion of other variables.  If race is a factor when all other variables are controlled for then that's logical.
I can tell how good of a person you are by how you treat the people you disagree with.
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Re: Vaccine prioritizing based on race?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2021, 01:25:57 am »
The people most at risk should be first in line.  Based on what we know about risk factors, I ought to be among the last Canadians to receive the vaccine, and I'm okay with that.  Others need it more.   I'm just disappointed that I'll have to wait until 2026 to get my dose.

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Masked for your safety.
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Re: Vaccine prioritizing based on race?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2021, 07:35:22 am »
I don't have a problem with race being a variable, but not to the exclusion of other variables.
The exclusion of other variables is an assumption that you and you alone are making.
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