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Offline waldo

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« Reply #720 on: March 08, 2019, 11:56:48 am »
In this case the only safeguard was a minister who would not be cowed by her boss. It shows how flimsy our safeguards are.

"a minister who would not be cowed by her boss"  ;D aided and abetted by a feckless, pliable and indiscriminate media, St. Jody's truth => subjective, self-serving, vindictive retaliation to a 'small, tidy cabinet shuffle'; one she didn't like because she was being asked to move from her "dream job" - nothing more, nothing less...
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« Reply #721 on: March 08, 2019, 12:01:50 pm »
 I came across this gem.

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The Diabolical Narcissist’s Prayer

That didn’t happen.
And if it did happen, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was that bad, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is a big deal, that’s not my fault.
And if it was my fault, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did mean it…
You deserved it.
Amen.
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« Reply #722 on: March 08, 2019, 12:16:12 pm »
I came across this gem.

when you're in pain, does labeling others a narcissist feel good... is it self-justification for your own failings?


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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #723 on: March 08, 2019, 12:22:15 pm »
In this case the only safeguard was a minister who would not be cowed by her boss. It shows how flimsy our safeguards are.
Not necessarily. The law requires any such direction to be published in the Canada Gazette. This means that any interested party could have connected the dots, followed the paper trail from SNC lobbying, the secret passage of the DPA option to the prosecutors judgement being overruled. This would have been more than enough to make a stink but would any in the media have cared? I doubt it. This is only a story because JWR choose to make an issue of it an everyone loves a good soap opera.

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« Reply #724 on: March 08, 2019, 12:29:36 pm »
Not necessarily. The law requires any such direction to be published in the Canada Gazette. This means that any interested party could have connected the dots, followed the paper trail from SNC lobbying, the secret passage of the DPA option to the prosecutors judgement being overruled. This would have been more than enough to make a stink but would any in the media have cared? I doubt it. This is only a story because JWR choose to make an issue of it an everyone loves a good soap opera.

It wasn't direction, it was pressure. "It's your decision, but." Obviously the implication was if you don't do it we will find someone who will and that's what would have happened if she hadn't made a stink.

It might still happen but it will have much greater consequences.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #725 on: March 08, 2019, 12:37:13 pm »
The question that needs to be asked is, "Is Waldo on the payroll of the Liberal Party of Canada?"

Considering you won't find one iota of criticism of the LPC in any of his 1263 posts, that is not an unreasonable question.
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« Reply #726 on: March 08, 2019, 01:01:52 pm »
Not necessarily. The law requires any such direction to be published in the Canada Gazette. This means that any interested party could have connected the dots, followed the paper trail from SNC lobbying, the secret passage of the DPA option to the prosecutors judgement being overruled. This would have been more than enough to make a stink but would any in the media have cared? I doubt it. This is only a story because JWR choose to make an issue of it an everyone loves a good soap opera.

ya ya, I've already spoken to formal government notice... Canada Gazette publishing of a decision to change prosecution intent and/or direction - you appear to believe this 'transparency' is like a single-liner - a 'line item' entry without regard to rationale/justification?

Here's JWR exercising said lawful requirement within the Canada Gazette... in this SNC-Lavalin DPA circumstance how do you envision such conveyance, sans "Jody's truth"?


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« Reply #727 on: March 08, 2019, 01:03:38 pm »
Considering you won't find one iota of criticism of the LPC in any of his 1263 posts, that is not an unreasonable question.

somehow you managed to ignore the original post... now only replying cause the waldo burned ya, hey!  ;D
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« Reply #728 on: March 08, 2019, 01:06:25 pm »
It wasn't direction, it was pressure. "It's your decision, but." Obviously the implication was if you don't do it we will find someone who will and that's what would have happened if she hadn't made a stink.

citation request for your stated, "but"... c'mon wilber, your declared, "obvious implication" needs qualification - no? Why are you a "St. Jody's truther"?  ;D

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #729 on: March 08, 2019, 01:28:38 pm »
Canadians get what happened.  They aren't stupid.  All the hand-wringing in this thread won't change that.  They usually make the right choice come election time, they have a very good track record, this comforts me.  If the trash needs to be taken out in Oct, they'll do it.

Canadians have already judged Singh as the incompetent fool that he is.  I'll wait with the rest of the voters to see who is the least blabbering fool between JT and Scheer.  What a sad sack of choices.

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #730 on: March 08, 2019, 01:35:27 pm »
citation request for your stated, "but"... c'mon wilber, your declared, "obvious implication" needs qualification - no? Why are you a "St. Jody's truther"?  ;D

Come on. Trudeau said himself that he approached her because he thought she was still open to other options and he asked staff to follow up on it. At one point he also pointed out to her that he was the member for Papineau were SNC is based.

You would have to be pretty damn thick not to take that hint.
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« Reply #731 on: March 08, 2019, 01:50:52 pm »
Come on. Trudeau said himself that he approached her because he thought she was still open to other options and he asked staff to follow up on it. At one point he also pointed out to her that he was the member for Papineau were SNC is based.

You would have to be pretty damn thick not to take that hint.

your stated "but" and your indicated "obvious implications" remain standing without you providing any qualification of same... ringing as hollow as the claimed (and unsubstantiated) "veiled threats" that only JWR has intimated. You choose to accept a trumped-up, media inflamed, fake-scandal - only because it aligns with your partisanship - doing so while you chastise others for same. Some, certainly not the waldo, would call you a hypocrite. 
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #732 on: March 08, 2019, 02:10:34 pm »
your stated "but" and your indicated "obvious implications" remain standing without you providing any qualification of same... ringing as hollow as the claimed (and unsubstantiated) "veiled threats" that only JWR has intimated. You choose to accept a trumped-up, media inflamed, fake-scandal - only because it aligns with your partisanship - doing so while you chastise others for same. Some, certainly not the waldo, would call you a hypocrite.

So, are you pretty damn thick or just a flack?
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #733 on: March 08, 2019, 02:23:49 pm »
So, are you pretty damn thick or just a flack?

I see you choosing not to offer the (multiple times now) request for you to qualify your implication of veiled threats. Choosing instead to attempt to marginalize with an insult laden personalization that says more about you and your failings.

since you went to the effort with your latest posted video slag, please take additional effort to offer your profound insights to this one - hey?


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