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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #510 on: March 03, 2019, 06:31:50 pm »
such a naive grouping of statements. The viability of the company is said to be at state - to the point it would, effectively, sever its operations within Canada and move its base to the UK... if it wasn't outright take-over given its significantly weakened position. Those 9000 jobs are all across Canada - I trust your negating their value would go over well in those related locations. Let them eat cake, hey?
Well, the Trudeau government is doing its best to drive the pipeline companies out of Canada and does not give a damn about the tens of thousands of jobs that will be lost. So this government has absolutely no business using the 'Canada will lose jobs argument'. The only reason the Liberals care about SNC is because it is well connected to the Liberal party.
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« Reply #511 on: March 03, 2019, 06:32:30 pm »
Well, the Trudeau government is doing its best to drive the pipeline companies out of Canada and does not give a damn about the tens of thousands of jobs that will be lost.

Riiiight.  That's a popular line, but there's ample proof to the contrary.
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« Reply #512 on: March 03, 2019, 06:44:09 pm »
Riiiight.  That's a popular line, but there's ample proof to the contrary.
Sorry. They killed energy east by requiring pipelines to account for upstream and downstream emissions: a standard that no other industry is expected to meet - including all those tankers importing oil into Quebec. Trudeau had made it clear that trans mountain is the last pipeline that will ever be built as long as the Liberals are in charge and they care nothing for the jobs that will be lost because of their virtue signalling BS.
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« Reply #513 on: March 03, 2019, 07:06:09 pm »
Yes and just now parliament is on a 2 week break so Trudeau will have time to review the issues you speak of.

Your leader is hiding. His avoiding the press has nothing to do with Parliament being closed. By the way get out of fantasy land. Even when your Lord is asked questions in Parliament he refuses to answer them. His refusal to answer questions is there for anyone to watch.
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« Reply #514 on: March 03, 2019, 07:09:14 pm »
Sorry. They killed energy east

Energy east was never going to happen - never.  The indigenous considerations make it impossible.

The Liberals have been staunch advocates for both Keystone XL and TMX.
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« Reply #515 on: March 03, 2019, 07:19:32 pm »
Oooh, citation.  There's a lot of evidence that she wasn't very good at her job, from unfilled judicial appointments, to cases left on her desk, to arguably unconstitutional laws.  That's why ministers get moved.

1. There is no evidence the MNR of Justice was incompetent. I call you out. As you would say oooh citation. Stop fabricating.
2. The MNR of Justice AG does not appoint Judges or control the timing of the selection process. Go find out the process.

Stop fabricating false allegations and do some research.
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« Reply #516 on: March 03, 2019, 07:29:43 pm »
please stop parroting "Jody's truth"!

would it be appropriate for an AG/Justice Minister to refuse to provide her personal view on DPAs? Would it be appropriate for an AG to refuse to consider a DPA option because of a personal predilection against DPAs?

What was the point of your comment? Should someone tell you to stop parroting Trudeau? You clearly are unable to discuss the legal issues.
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« Reply #517 on: March 03, 2019, 07:35:17 pm »
I think all of it speaks to a pattern.

It's time we stop pretending that the AG isn't a political office in Canada.

1. It speaks to repeated attempts by Trudeau to break the law for politically motivated reasons.
2. The AG's office has never been political and specifically defined and application in a non partisan manner. You clearly do not understand how your government is defined by law.
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« Reply #518 on: March 03, 2019, 07:39:18 pm »
I think that separating the offices will do nothing - the AG will still be a political office.

It never was a political office. Please provide the examples of  how past AG's  acted partisan and refused to pursue prosecutions. Good luck and try get back to me this century with the evidence of the AG's incompetence.
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« Reply #519 on: March 03, 2019, 07:40:33 pm »
It never was a political office.

It's an office held by a politician.  You're living in a dream world.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #520 on: March 03, 2019, 07:47:30 pm »
It's an office held by a politician.  You're living in a dream world.

So? Do you give any thought to a thing you write? The Minster of Justice and AG wears two hats, one partisan in function, the other non partisan. The fact you can't be bothered to try find out why that is the case at this point speaks to wilful ignorance. Would you go find out what the AG' s function is.

The fact Trudeau wanted the AG to violate her job description by acting in a partisan way did not and can not not make the job description political and partisan. Read the damn job description.
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« Reply #521 on: March 03, 2019, 07:51:21 pm »
Your leader is hiding. His avoiding the press has nothing to do with Parliament being closed. By the way get out of fantasy land. Even when your Lord is asked questions in Parliament he refuses to answer them. His refusal to answer questions is there for anyone to watch.

I'll refute that silly comment by referring you back to your buddy Harper.

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« Reply #522 on: March 03, 2019, 07:54:23 pm »
So? Do you give any thought to a thing you write. The Minster of Justice and AG Sears two hats, one partisan n function, the other non partisan. The fact you can't be bothered to try find out why that is the case at this point speaks to wilful ignorance. Would you go find out what the AG,'s function is. Until you do you does nonsense.

Already been described in previous posts. I also suggested that these two responsibilities ought to be split.

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« Reply #523 on: March 03, 2019, 08:01:24 pm »
It's time we stop pretending that the AG isn't a political office in Canada.

There's no doubt it has been in the past. But it's not supposed to be.  The only thing stopping it from being a political office influenced by the whims of the PMO etc is an AG who is ethical, does their job properly and abides by their legal oaths as a lawyer and elected official.

I didn't give JWR the benefit of the doubt, I thought she was probably a slimy ethically-dubious politician like many of the others.  Her testimony was compelling enough to convince me otherwise, at least in her duties as AG.  We'll see how that all holds up with further testimony.

There was no upside in her resisting the PMO's DPA pressure, only a risk to her job/career.  JWR says there was inappropriate pressure, JT says there was none.  Someone is wrong, and possibly lying, who do we believe?
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« Reply #524 on: March 03, 2019, 08:05:16 pm »
it should be clear to anyone, even you, JWR did not have the appropriate background for the job in the first place... I'll let you state why she might have been chosen given her background was a mere 4 years as a junior prosecutor handling low-level drug crimes. She did not come any where near completing the official mandate she received; there is no shortage of opinion and fact based statements offered that she did not perform well, did not accomplish much, most of what she accomplished has received significant criticism, etc.. Additionally, it appears she was most difficult to work with while having questionable relationship skills - I mean, c'mon... who (other than JWR) burns through 4 Chief-of-Staffs in 3.5 years?

It should be clear to anyone you can't debate the issues raised by the former AG so attempt to attack her personally to avoid the issues she raised and that makes your attempt to  deflect from the issues she raised pathetic.

As for your attempt to assassinate her character:

1. You have no problem with the qualifications for your PM consisting one year of employment as a supply drama teacher in a private school
2. You have no problem with your foreign minister having zero qualifications in international law
3. If what you said is true necessarily this means Trudeau chose an incompetent candidate and so should be fired.

At this point your attempts to charter assassinate are past absurd.

You also need a reality check if you think at this point she was fired because she was unable to understand her job. There is a reason  5 former AG's have come out supporting her. Your comments about her being a jr. dug crown are laughable. She was a well respected Crown in BC. You have no idea as to her reputation  clearly and are fabricating horse crap at this point. What next...are you saying she was retarded? How absolutely bottom feeding scum sucking snively do we go with this. Was she a drunk? Did she sleep around?  Oh please share.
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