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« Reply #240 on: February 20, 2019, 04:18:44 pm »
Most people are finally starting to see how much of a flake Trudeau is. He is not taken seriously by World leaders, and is a disgrace to Canada. He makes us look weak. IMHO, Peter Mackay would have made an awesome PM, but that ship has sailed.

Speaking of world leaders who have been ignored and disgraced, where are you on the Donald?

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« Reply #241 on: February 20, 2019, 04:19:46 pm »
I work in the oil and gas industry, and we tar and feather the politically correct on site.

speaking of politically correct

wait... I kid, I kid!
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« Reply #242 on: February 20, 2019, 04:21:31 pm »
Speaking of world leaders who have been ignored and disgraced, where are you on the Donald?

He is a dotard.
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« Reply #243 on: February 20, 2019, 04:25:14 pm »
He is a dotard.

I would agree with that description.

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« Reply #244 on: February 20, 2019, 04:33:32 pm »
Even with the "scandal" Trudeau is ahead of Scheer in the polls.
Sheer is just not a likable leader. One would think the Conservatives could have done better.
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« Reply #245 on: February 20, 2019, 04:37:22 pm »
speaking of politically correct

wait... I kid, I kid!

Now go easy on those "rig pigs". I made my living for a while moving them to and from shore. I guess that makes me somewhat responsible for global warming. I wasn't aware at the time, and that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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« Reply #246 on: February 20, 2019, 07:16:36 pm »
Sheer is just not a likable leader. One would think the Conservatives could have done better.

Every day I meet people in business who come across as more capable, more intelligent, more empathetic and better communicators than these three.
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« Reply #247 on: February 21, 2019, 12:31:20 am »
JWR... just can't quit JT!  :o

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« Reply #248 on: February 21, 2019, 12:44:00 am »
Looks like the Liberals have finally got damage control going and JWR and Trudeau may have cut a deal.

1) JWR will testify in front of the commons committee and will spin this as an interpersonal conflict;
2) JWR demanded and got Butt's resignation in return for cooperation;
3) JWR will rejoin cabinet - possibly back at justice.

It does look more and more like some kind of deal was struck, as you say, and that all is well between her & Trudeau/Liberals.  On Wed the 20th, JWR was at the Liberal caucus meeting assuring her fellow MP's behind closed doors that she's fully on board with the Liberal Party & will "speak her truth" in front of the justice committee, and then Trudeau came out apologizing to JWR publicly for things he admits he should earlier:

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Wilson-Raybould quit Trudeau's cabinet last week — just a week after Trudeau demoted her to the Veterans Affairs portfolio and just days after the Globe and Mail report.

Wilson-Raybould's surprise abstention from the vote on the NDP motion came just hours after she reassured the Liberal caucus that she was fully on the team.

Multiple caucus sources told CBC News that when Wilson-Raybould spoke in a caucus meeting today, she said she fully supported the Liberal agenda — especially on Indigenous issues. She did not discuss the specific allegation that she was pressured to intervene in SNC-Lavalin's case, but repeated her line that she was seeking legal advice on what she's permitted to say.

Several MPs told CBC News that her presence at the caucus meeting and the team-focused message she delivered there was taken by Liberals as a good sign

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Earlier today, Trudeau apologized to Wilson-Raybould today for what he called "absolutely unacceptable" comments and cartoons about the former justice minister linked to the swelling scandal.

"I wasn't quick enough to condemn, in unequivocal terms, the comments and commentary and cartoons about her last week," Trudeau told reporters before facing another bruising round of questions about SNC-Lavalin in the Commons. "They were absolutely unacceptable and I should have done it sooner."
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #249 on: February 21, 2019, 12:50:55 am »
Even with the "scandal" Trudeau is ahead of Scheer in the polls. We'll see how that plays out after testimony is given by JWR etal.

Trudeau ahead of Scheer in what polls?  "Best leader" polls?  So it seems.  I forgot about the old "unsure" poll option.

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And you do hopefully understand that Canada is a multi-party system as opposed to the US two party system, so comparing polling numbers between the two means very little.

Well yes, we don't elect our PM like the US elects their POTUS, so the leader approval numbers are just curiosities really.  Despite Trudeau's low approval the Liberal Party itself seems to have higher approval in comparison so their dislike of him doesn't fully translate into Liberal disapproval it seems.  I would think it hurts their polling #'s though, but hard to say how much.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #250 on: February 21, 2019, 12:59:15 am »
Now go easy on those "rig pigs". I made my living for a while moving them to and from shore. I guess that makes me somewhat responsible for global warming. I wasn't aware at the time, and that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

With those things, the thing is if you didn't do the job somebody else would, so you shouldn't really feel guilty for it, I would say.
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« Reply #251 on: February 21, 2019, 01:07:21 am »
Every day I meet people in business who come across as more capable, more intelligent, more empathetic and better communicators than these three.

Same here.  My theory is that people who are very intelligent, capable, and ethical managers/leaders are smart enough to realize getting into politics isn't a very smart idea. 

Especially the way the media is in modern times, everything you say or do is under a microscope dissected on 24/hr news media, it puts enormous pressure on your family, it's not that financially lucrative for the pain & trouble, and internal party politics is a bunch of BS ass-kissing and gamesmanship anyways.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #252 on: February 21, 2019, 01:12:13 am »
JWR... just can't quit JT!  :o



I can't quit you babe
Woman I think I'm gonna put you down for a little while
I can't quit you babe
I... think I'm gonna put you down for a while
I said you messed up my happy home
Made me mistreat my only child [Gerald Butts?]

You built my hopes so high
Baby then you let me down so low
You built my hopes so high then ya let me down... so low
Don'tcha realize sweet baby?
Woman I don't know... which way to go

Woman I can't quit you babe
I think I'm gonna put you down for a while
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #253 on: February 21, 2019, 01:13:56 am »
With those things, the thing is if you didn't do the job somebody else would, so you shouldn't really feel guilty for it, I would say.
People who think like this are akin to those pacifists who insist violence in never necessary. In both cases, the hypocrite in question lives a comfortable life thanks entirely to the people that reject their moralizing and are willing to do the jobs that are needed to keep society running whether it is pumping oil or working as a police officer.
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« Reply #254 on: February 21, 2019, 01:27:35 am »
People who think like this are akin to those pacifists who insist violence in never necessary. In both cases, the hypocrite in question lives a comfortable life thanks entirely to the people that reject their moralizing and are willing to do the jobs that are needed to keep society running whether it is pumping oil or working as a police officer.

Violence is only ever necessary when it's to protect ones self or perhaps others from violence. If we were all pacifists, whom you seem for some weird reason to discredit, we wouldn't have to be violent. Get it?