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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #660 on: March 07, 2019, 07:39:16 am »
it is what it is - it provided a snapshot of the last week of a rolling 4 week coverage of participants voting for their respective preference for Prime Minister... which is exactly what I stated. I also stated that this same 'rolling week' approach or aggregate polling offers additional insight - certainly more than a single poll snapshot that had the member gleefully touting it.
It is what it is: irrelevant. What is relevant is that Trudeau's brand is now tarnished by PMO shenanigans that remind people of the sponsorship scandal.
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« Reply #661 on: March 07, 2019, 10:12:22 am »
It is what it is: irrelevant. What is relevant is that Trudeau's brand is now tarnished by PMO shenanigans that remind people of the sponsorship scandal.

no - again, it is what it is - a poll (the last, most recent week of an ongoing rolling 4 week poll) where participants expressed their PM preference. Your want to reminiscence is noted; one that, to me, would have a relevance if you actually allowed yourself to relate what you interpret is the nature of this present day said "scandal"... other than that fabricated by a partisan Opposition and a compliant media. I don't recall you doing so; if you have already, I expect you wouldn't mind relating it again - yes?
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« Reply #662 on: March 07, 2019, 10:31:06 am »
Trudeau is so screwed.

His only way out of this mess is to offer JWB her post back at Justice and apologize for his overzealous efforts to protect jobs.

JWB might not accept but he needs to publicly make the offer. Doing this is the only way to avoid admitting that she was removed to make room for someone more likely to help out SNC. The ridiculous excuses they are offering now just makes him seem dishonest.

I don't think he can do anything now. 

Who would have thought his political instincts were so terrible ?
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« Reply #663 on: March 07, 2019, 10:33:54 am »
Then why does the law *explicitly state* that "national economic interest" must *not* be considered?

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Factors not to consider

(3) Despite paragraph (2)(i), if the organization is alleged to have committed an offence under section 3 or 4 of the Corruption of Foreign Public Officials Act, the prosecutor must not consider the national economic interest, the potential effect on relations with a state other than Canada or the identity of the organization or individual involved.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-179.html
If JWR had followed the agenda of the PMO and considered "national economic interest" for this particular DPA (SNC-L &/or headquarters may leave Canada if blocked for 10 yrs from gov contracts), then wouldn't she have been doing something unlawful?
One would assume so but the law is contradictory since one could argue the DPA was to "to reduce the negative consequences of the wrongdoing for persons employees, customers, pensioners and others who did not engage in the wrongdoing" rather than the "national interest".


recognizing the correlation of the DPA clause in question; correlation with the 'Foreign Corruption Act': a point of clarification from yesterday's testimony; if you choose not to accept it, please provide an actual legal interpretation you prefer - something other than your personal interpretations - yes? One journalist captured it:



for all the words written over this point, and the dependencies placed upon it... might ConMedia hacks actually give this clarification notice/attention?
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« Reply #664 on: March 07, 2019, 10:36:09 am »
Who would have thought his political instincts were so terrible ?

what were you expecting - what did you want to hear, and the basis for what you wanted to hear?

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« Reply #665 on: March 07, 2019, 12:33:34 pm »
I don't think he can do anything now. 

Who would have thought his political instincts were so terrible ?

I could have told you that. The man is a part time drama teacher, who came from privilege.
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« Reply #666 on: March 07, 2019, 01:10:02 pm »
what were you expecting - what did you want to hear, and the basis for what you wanted to hear?

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« Reply #667 on: March 07, 2019, 01:10:57 pm »
I could have told you that. The man is a part time drama teacher, who came from privilege.

Who became PM ?  With a majority government ?

Did you miss that part ?

That would account for my surprise.  The last job.

Wait - who the hell are you anyway ?
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #668 on: March 07, 2019, 02:44:51 pm »
Yah yah the post is too long.

I don't care about long posts, I care about long posts that go off into la-la land. I always start reading your posts, and then when you have nothing to offer but mindless drivel I stop wasting my time.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #669 on: March 07, 2019, 02:49:30 pm »
What stood out to me was that the person they chose to replace JWR as AG is cabinet-rookie David Lametti, who is a Montreal MP.

Yes, he is a cabinet rookie. He however has a very extensive legal background, and specializes in international law. His legal experience is far, far more extensive than JWR who was also a cabinet rookie.
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« Reply #670 on: March 07, 2019, 03:19:23 pm »
Yes, he is a cabinet rookie. He however has a very extensive legal background, and specializes in international law. His legal experience is far, far more extensive than JWR who was also a cabinet rookie.

Really lame argument...   it's no different than the arguments by people who state Trudeau is a "drama teacher".   You're using the same terrible argument now that it will back your own viewpoint.

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« Reply #671 on: March 07, 2019, 03:27:10 pm »
Really lame argument...   it's no different than the arguments by people who state Trudeau is a "drama teacher".   You're using the same terrible argument now that it will back your own viewpoint.

How is that anywhere close to the same argument?
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« Reply #672 on: March 07, 2019, 03:54:55 pm »
is there a translator in the house?... anyone, anyone, anyone.....
I don't think most people here need a translation.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #673 on: March 07, 2019, 03:57:48 pm »
I was looking at the infamous January cabinet shuffle.  What stood out to me was that the person they chose to replace JWR as AG is cabinet-rookie David Lametti, who is a Montreal MP.  By sheer coincidence of course, SNC-Lavalin is a Montreal-based company with its headquarters in the city.

I wonder if an AG from Montreal would have an interest (even a conflict of interest perhaps?) in obtaining a DPA for a Montreal company in order to save 9000 jobs?  Surely this unbelievable coincidence wouldn't have occurred to the PM/PMO.  Hmm...

A Montreal MP.   Quelle Surprise!
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #674 on: March 07, 2019, 03:58:02 pm »
Really lame argument...   it's no different than the arguments by people who state Trudeau is a "drama teacher".   You're using the same terrible argument now that it will back your own viewpoint.

So you think teaching law at Mcgill is "very lame"?