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Offline Boges

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1635 on: August 14, 2019, 03:40:50 pm »
Martin might have been decent too, if not burdened by the scandal.

And backstabbing.

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« Reply #1636 on: August 14, 2019, 03:42:16 pm »
The SNC business will play a part leading up to the fall election, but Scheer has his right wing populism connections (Faith Goldy, Doug Ford etc.) that will also come up. I'd say get ready for 4 more years of JT.

So you want to handwave an obvious ethics violation, but Faith Goldy is what will sink Scheer?!??!?!

That only proves that the Liberals only real play is fear mongering.

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« Reply #1637 on: August 14, 2019, 03:45:38 pm »
So you want to handwave an obvious ethics violation, but Faith Goldy is what will sink Scheer?!??!?!

That only proves that the Liberals only real play is fear mongering.

It's how politics works.

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« Reply #1638 on: August 14, 2019, 03:55:25 pm »
The SNC business will play a part leading up to the fall election, but Scheer has his right wing populism connections (Faith Goldy, Doug Ford etc.) that will also come up. I'd say get ready for 4 more years of JT.

I'd say either way we're screwed.
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« Reply #1639 on: August 14, 2019, 04:02:24 pm »
I'd say either way we're screwed.

One red flag I have with Scheer is the possibility of revisiting the abortion debate. The SCOC did the right thing IMO and we should leave it there.

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« Reply #1640 on: August 14, 2019, 04:49:21 pm »
What I really, really appreciate is that JWR knowingly risked her job as AG/MoJ, and ultimately her job as Liberal Party member, and possibly even her career as MP, in order to remain ethical, under tremendous pressure from the most powerful people in the country.  How many politicians would risk their jobs to remain ethical? Extremely few.  The fact that politicians lie all the time and do all the sleezy things they do in order to get re-elected is proof of that. 

If you valued our democracy, you would never lie to the public to save your job.  Trudeau clearly cares more about his job than our democracy, as do all the Liberal MP's that stood behind JT as she was expelled from the Liberal caucus.  They're all as guilty as he is if this is how whistleblowers are treated.

She's a true patriot, I don't care if some still disagree.
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« Reply #1641 on: August 14, 2019, 04:56:30 pm »
The Liberals even denied the ethics commissioner's request for cabinet confidence evidence.  JT, the PMO members involved, and the MP's that support him are truly self-serving scum to this country.  There is no transparency.  All to try and save their jobs.
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« Reply #1642 on: August 14, 2019, 05:03:38 pm »
What I really, really appreciate is that JWR knowingly risked her job as AG/MoJ, and ultimately her job as Liberal Party member, and possibly even her career as MP, in order to remain ethical, under tremendous pressure from the most powerful people in the country.  How many politicians would risk their jobs to remain ethical? Extremely few.  The fact that politicians lie all the time and do all the sleezy things they do in order to get re-elected is proof of that. 

If you valued our democracy, you would never lie to the public to save your job.  Trudeau clearly cares more about his job than our democracy, as do all the Liberal MP's that stood behind JT as she was expelled from the Liberal caucus.  They're all as guilty as he is if this is how whistleblowers are treated.

She's a true patriot, I don't care if some still disagree.

She did a poor job as justice minister and accomplished very little. In such a situation the PM has the right to remove someone they have previously appointed.

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« Reply #1643 on: August 14, 2019, 05:28:24 pm »
She did a poor job as justice minister and accomplished very little. In such a situation the PM has the right to remove someone they have previously appointed.

Did you read the news today?
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1644 on: August 14, 2019, 05:33:58 pm »
Omni, and JMT for that matter, if you still want to vote for the Liberals and/or still think they're less **** than Scheer, that's fine do what you like, but please don't keep peddling this bullshit narrative of why she was removed and keep defending the guy.  He's a lying piece of **** and a bully.
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« Reply #1645 on: August 14, 2019, 05:37:44 pm »
Omni, and JMT for that matter, if you still want to vote for the Liberals and/or still think they're less **** than Scheer, that's fine do what you like, but please don't keep peddling this bullshit narrative of why she was removed and keep defending the guy.  He's a lying piece of **** and a bully.

A little reading for ya.

Jody Wilson-Raybould Did A Poor Job As Justice Minister
During her time in office, she failed to accomplish many of the things in Trudeau's mandate letter.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/kyla-lee/jody-wilson-raybould-snc-lavalin_a_23669171/

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« Reply #1646 on: August 14, 2019, 05:46:06 pm »
A little reading for ya.

Jody Wilson-Raybould Did A Poor Job As Justice Minister
During her time in office, she failed to accomplish many of the things in Trudeau's mandate letter.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/kyla-lee/jody-wilson-raybould-snc-lavalin_a_23669171/

Do you think these are the reasons she was shuffled?
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1647 on: August 14, 2019, 05:59:40 pm »
A little reading for ya.

Jody Wilson-Raybould Did A Poor Job As Justice Minister
During her time in office, she failed to accomplish many of the things in Trudeau's mandate letter.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/kyla-lee/jody-wilson-raybould-snc-lavalin_a_23669171/


A PM can remove a Minister any time they like. This is about pressuring an AG to bend the law for political reasons.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1648 on: August 14, 2019, 09:54:14 pm »

haven't received my talking points yet - hang in there... I appreciate you validate yourself through the waldo!


MP's should force JT to resign, make JWR their leader, that's the Liberal's best chance at re-election IMO. Seems too late for that since much of the party turned their backs on her.  Same old Liberals.
Somewhere, Pierre Poilievre is cackling like Gargamel and Justin is throwing a tantrum by toppling over gatorade coolers and then hitting them with baseball bats.

c'mon man... you shouldn't post when you're drunk!

I voted for the Liberals last election.  I thought maybe by now they had changed.  I was wrong.  But Harper needed to go, & I gave them a chance.

Looks like we're playing musical chairs of corruption when it comes to these office holders.  I guess that's just the way the system goes. I don't expect Scheer or the others would be any different.

you do know the CPC is still Harper's party, right? That Harper is still pulling the strings, right?

good to read you and your posse were on the fence over the fake trumped up SNC-Lavalin "scandal"... until now! {/sarc}

wait now - 1st talking point just arrived: hey PG, back in the day, weakSauce Andy repeatedly made a fool of himself calling for PM Trudeau's resignation... but not now! Wassup?  ;D

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1649 on: August 14, 2019, 10:15:32 pm »
Speaking of weak sauce waldo, you sure know how to dish it.
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