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Offline wilber

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« Reply #1620 on: August 14, 2019, 02:46:55 pm »
Donít know about JWR. Philpott maybe.
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« Reply #1621 on: August 14, 2019, 02:50:22 pm »
That's pie in the sky. JT is the Golden Boy. He'll have to lose in October for there to be a change. Most of the Liberals are lock step behind him.

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« Reply #1622 on: August 14, 2019, 02:55:56 pm »
What's bewildering is that JWR straight up warned them that he/they were acting improperly and how it would be perceived if she did as they wanted, she was trying to protect him and she said as much, she was giving the guy legal counsel during her recorded call to Michael Wernick, but they still went ahead.

Were they all that uninformed about how the AG and Minister of Justice works? The people around Trudeau in the PMO have just been terrible at protecting the guy.  The convicted attempted politician assassin invited in India, meeting and taking pictures with that Joshua Boyle family nutjobs etc.

Gerald Butts was principal advisor to Dalton McGuinty, one of the most corrupt & ineffectual Liberal politicians ever. You have to wonder the wisdom of a PM relying on an advisor who's been in the middle of a such a corrupt government office before and all the habits and ways of operating that comes with.  This is just the way the "old Liberals" do things.  Trudeau is part of that legacy, who knows what JT learned from his dad growing up. The Liberals need a clean slate, voters thought they were getting that when they annihilated the Liberal party post-Chretien, I guess not. 

JWR proves there's some ethical Liberals among this new batch, so build a party around them.  MP's should force JT to resign, make JWR their leader, that's the Liberal's best chance at re-election IMO. Seems too late for that since much of the party turned their backs on her.  Same old Liberals.

 "they annihilated the Liberal party post-Chretien",
You've heard of Paul Martin eh?
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1623 on: August 14, 2019, 03:00:59 pm »
they annihilated the Liberal party post-Chretien,
You've heard of Paul Martin eh?

Yeah how long did he last?  Martin was part of that cadre.  The Chretien sponsorship corruption gave him and the party the boot, leading to a decade of Harper.  The Liberals never learn their lessons, federally or provincially.  Or maybe the voters don't.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1624 on: August 14, 2019, 03:04:13 pm »
That's pie in the sky. JT is the Golden Boy. He'll have to lose in October for there to be a change. Most of the Liberals are lock step behind him.

If they want to keep that captain at the helm they'll go down in the sinking ship with him most likely come October.
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« Reply #1625 on: August 14, 2019, 03:07:14 pm »
Yeah how long did he last?  Martin was part of that cadre.  The Chretien sponsorship corruption gave him and the party the boot, leading to a decade of Harper.  The Liberals never learn their lessons, federally or provincially.  Or maybe the voters don't.

How long did Kim Campbell last?
And if they never "learn their lessons" why have they held power in this country more than any other party and are referred to as "Canada's natural ruling party"? 
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« Reply #1626 on: August 14, 2019, 03:08:48 pm »
I take full responsibility but I didnít do anything wrong so I am not responsible. JT.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1627 on: August 14, 2019, 03:11:56 pm »
How long did Kim Campbell last?

That's an apt comparison to Paul Martin actually. Martin did win a Minority. But Campbell had to deal with the Reform Party and the PCs walk in the wilderness lasted 10+ years.

Faced with a more organized CPC, Martin resorted to silly Troops in Streets Ads.

Kind of like JT's minions warning Canadians that Andrew Scheer will treat migrants like Donald Trump.
http://www.iheartradio.ca/610cktb/audio/are-the-liberals-being-honest-when-mp-adam-vaughan-uses-photos-of-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-camps-from-the-us-to-criticize-the-ontario-conservative-government-1.9750111

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« Reply #1628 on: August 14, 2019, 03:12:17 pm »
How long did Kim Campbell last?

Like 6 months.  What's your point?
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« Reply #1629 on: August 14, 2019, 03:17:16 pm »
Like 6 months.  What's your point?

5 actually. You were trying to criticize Martin for 3 years.

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« Reply #1630 on: August 14, 2019, 03:19:08 pm »
Like 6 months.  What's your point?
Too bad, I think she would have made a good PM. Couldnít dig out from under all that Mulroney baggage.
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« Reply #1631 on: August 14, 2019, 03:20:43 pm »
Somewhere, Pierre Poilievre is cackling like Gargamel and Justin is throwing a tantrum by toppling over gatorade coolers and then hitting them with baseball bats.
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« Reply #1632 on: August 14, 2019, 03:25:29 pm »
And if they never "learn their lessons" why have they held power in this country more than any other party and are referred to as "Canada's natural ruling party"?

Because we as voters are suckers.  I voted for the Liberals last election.  I thought maybe by now they had changed.  I was wrong.  But Harper needed to go, & I gave them a chance.

Looks like we're playing musical chairs of corruption when it comes to these office holders.  I guess that's just the way the system goes. I don't expect Scheer or the others would be any different.
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« Reply #1633 on: August 14, 2019, 03:27:30 pm »
Too bad, I think she would have made a good PM. Couldnít dig out from under all that Mulroney baggage.

Martin might have been decent too, if not burdened by the scandal.
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« Reply #1634 on: August 14, 2019, 03:28:40 pm »
The SNC business will play a part leading up to the fall election, but Scheer has his right wing populism connections (Faith Goldy, Doug Ford etc.) that will also come up. I'd say get ready for 4 more years of JT.