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Offline Poonlight Graham

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Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« on: February 07, 2019, 10:38:17 pm »
This is the most damning scandal yet faced by Trudeau as PM thus far I would say.  Now we have a clue as to possibly why Wilson-Raybould was mysteriously demoted from Justice Minister to Veterans Affairs Minister last month.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-snc-lavalin-fraud-corruption-1.5009578

https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/john-ivison-wilson-raybould-couldnt-hide-her-disappointment-at-move-from-justice-minister/wcm/3ed0bd06-2db0-47fa-8608-88a7ec9dd723

If true, Kudos to her for standing her ground.  But would also like to know why she remained silent on this political corruption.   The PM has too much power, they can pressure any Minister to do as they please or remove them from their position.  Where are the checks and balances?
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"  - African proverb

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Offline TimG

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2019, 10:57:57 pm »
If true, Kudos to her for standing her ground.  But would also like to know why she remained silent on this political corruption.   The PM has too much power, they can pressure any Minister to do as they please or remove them from their position.  Where are the checks and balances?
Why did this come out now? Perhaps she leaked what she could through back channels.

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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 11:02:58 pm »
The article I read earlier didn't directly blame Trudeau, only "the PMO".  But yes, this does not look good.

The PMO pressuring the Justice Minister to stop prosecution of a private company looks bad.

The PMO pressuring the Justice Minister to stop prosecution of a private company that is a big donor is worse.

Wilson-Reybould being demoted in the cabinet shuffle came as a surprise to a lot of observers.  If this is the reason why she got shuffled out of being Justice Minister...   that's pretty disgusting. This is an ugly story.   So far this is allegations from a single newspaper, so we shouldn't rush to judgment. But I can't imagine that the Globe And Mail would publish something like this without doing their homework.

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2019, 11:06:42 pm »
Why did this come out now? Perhaps she leaked what she could through back channels.

Hard to say.  Maybe her, maybe people who worked for her at the Dept. of Justice, who knows.  You're right the timing, a few weeks after the cabinet shuffle, is a bit suspicious...enough time for the Globe to investigate the story if leaked from someone connected.  Either way, it's good it came to light.

If true, this can easily bring down Trudeau, this smells like corruption at the highest levels, especially considering how slimy SNC-Lavalin is and that they are still allowed to bid on gov contracts.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2019, 11:47:06 pm »
Why did this come out now? Perhaps she leaked what she could through back channels.


A former SNC executive just plead guilty to " helping a public servant commit a breach of trust" last week.  I wonder if that might have something to do with it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pierre-duhaime-snc-lavalin-1.5000518

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2019, 11:52:07 pm »
The article I read earlier...  But I can't imagine that the Globe And Mail would publish something like this without doing their homework.

the waldo is shocked, shocked I tells ya... shocked that it appears the G&M has put its original article behind a paywall and subsequently written:

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The Globe and Mail never reported that officials in Mr. Trudeau’s office had directed Ms. Wilson-Raybould to take action – only that she was pressed to do so and declined.

Asked if the PMO exerted any influence whatsoever, Mr. Trudeau said: “As I’ve said, at no time did we direct the attorney-general, current or previous, to make any decision whatsoever in this matter."

This is the most damning scandal yet faced by Trudeau as PM thus far I would say. 

If true...

the waldo suggests you buried the lead!  ;D
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2019, 11:55:28 pm »
A former SNC executive just plead guilty to " helping a public servant commit a breach of trust" last week.  I wonder if that might have something to do with it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pierre-duhaime-snc-lavalin-1.5000518

ms. kimmy... you're confused (again)... that has nothin' to do with, "charges of embezzlement of funds, bribery and other wrongdoing related to contracts SNC had in Libya between 2001 and 2011". Did you actually read the G&M articles you referred to?  :-*
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2019, 12:13:01 am »
If people in the PMO did this, they need to be fired.

If the PM was involved personally, he needs to resign.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2019, 06:31:13 am »
Yep.   This smells like classic Liberal pushiness.  Sorry for your loss Waldo :D

Also this:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/bury-the-lede-versus-lead
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2019, 07:37:35 am »
Yep. This smells like classic Liberal pushiness.  Sorry for your loss Waldo :D

your perpetual anti-Liberal/Trudeau bent is most amusing to read... even in your rush-to-judgement best!

Also this:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/bury-the-lede-versus-lead

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2019, 08:16:57 am »
your perpetual anti-Liberal/Trudeau bent is most amusing to read... even in your rush-to-judgement best!


Only a blood-oath loyalist would refer to me as anti-Liberal.  I have voted for them in the past, and have no bias against them.  But I can still criticize them and recognize their familiar flaws.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2019, 01:32:31 pm »
Absolutely this should be investigated, sounds however like many people have rushed to judgment without any facts.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2019, 07:58:38 am »
Here's something.  Somebody on a Facebook Group I follow posted that the former minister should be careful as Trudeau may try to have her assassinated.

I doubt anyone on this board thinks that, but it made me realize that a lot of people posting about politics now may actually think that the movies and shows like House of Cards are real.   :-[

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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2019, 09:19:06 am »
Here's something.  Somebody on a Facebook Group I follow posted that the former minister should be careful as Trudeau may try to have her assassinated.

I doubt anyone on this board thinks that, but it made me realize that a lot of people posting about politics now may actually think that the movies and shows like House of Cards are real.   :-[

Kellyanne Conway’s alternate facts.
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Re: Trudeau accused in SNC-Lavalin scandal
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2019, 09:28:17 am »
Kellyanne Conway’s alternate facts.

No, I don't think KC posts such stuff.