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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: Trucker Rally
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2022, 10:29:07 am »
The right to control one's own body is given such high priority in Canada that we will allow people to kill unborn babies in order to uphold this right and support medical professionals who do so.

The Liberal government values body sovereignty so highly that anyone who doesn't support abortion rights is not allowed in the Liberal Party, and any organization that would dare even speak against such rights is denied grant funding through the Canada Summer Jobs program and has to sign an attestation.

The only conclusion that can be made is that the Liberals don't care at all about people having control over our own bodies, they only care about it when it's convenient for them and in their own self-interests, and can be ignored when it isn't.  A PM who sexually assaults a female reporter and elbows a female MP inside the House of Commons has weird ideas about body sovereignty.
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« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2022, 11:00:06 am »
Ad hominem insults are a logical fallacy and not an argument so they'll be ignored.   https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

The law does care. Piercing the skin with a needle and injecting medicine into you body is violence.

Is this some kind of parody of super-woke people, because it's extermely deranged.

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Coercing anyone to go under a medical procedure they don't want is unethical.  The safety and size of the needle is totally irrelevant, the issue is consent.


TiL that I committed an act of violence when I took my kid in to get her first few rounds of her scheduled immunizations.

No one is being coerced or forced to get a vaccine, so your objection is nonsensical.
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« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2022, 11:01:29 am »
Who the heck is Pat King?  LOL.  WTF is antihate.ca?

Do you not know how ro read?

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I counted like 6 far-right flags while 99% of the flags being flown were Canadian flags plus some Quebec flags and F-U Trudeau flags.  I saw more aboriginals than Nazis.

Some idiot stomped on the War Memorial which happens every Canada Day, some people pee'd outside which happens every Canada Day, and an idiot dressed up the Terry Fox statue.  No violence, no makeshift guillotine for Trudeau, lots of honking horns and people chanting "freedom".

Have you and squiggy considered the possibility that the vast majority of people there just want to protest the vaccine mandates?  Are people lining overpasses waiving Canadian flags at the trucks because "white nationalism"?  lol

You're pretty dumb if you don't understand how these causes overlap.

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« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2022, 11:11:23 am »
How are you not being forced to vaccinate your kid if they're being denied a basic public service like education?  That is coercion.

Being threatened with jail for driving 80km/h in a school zone after slamming a fifth of whisky is coercion.

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« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2022, 11:25:28 am »
The right to control one's own body is given such high priority in Canada that we will allow people to kill unborn babies in order to uphold this right and support medical professionals who do so. 

**** analogy.  People don't agree on the definition of human and as such, a medical compromise has been reached.

And having an abortion has no effect on anybody else's health.

Another example to think about is that people are fine with the government regulating choices such as drug use and such ... why is 'body sovereignty' then brought in when it's about discussion of vaccines with a proven benefit.

The collective legislates your choices.  Weed smokers had to hide in alleys for years because of the moral majority, so this is the other side of that coin.
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« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2022, 12:37:44 pm »
**** analogy.  People don't agree on the definition of human and as such, a medical compromise has been reached.

And having an abortion has no effect on anybody else's health.

Another example to think about is that people are fine with the government regulating choices such as drug use and such ... why is 'body sovereignty' then brought in when it's about discussion of vaccines with a proven benefit.

The collective legislates your choices.  Weed smokers had to hide in alleys for years because of the moral majority, so this is the other side of that coin.
It has a major impact on the health of the unborn baby thatís being killed.  Their beating heart actually stops beating.  Stop relying on medical science from the 1960s.

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« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2022, 12:46:32 pm »
TiL that I committed an act of violence when I took my kid in to get her first few rounds of her scheduled immunizations.

Yes, but you're their guardian and made that decision to get a medical procedure for them.  Similar to circumcision.

If the state mandated that women get ear piercings or for men to be circumcisized or else they lose their jobs what would we say about that?
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« Reply #52 on: January 30, 2022, 12:48:16 pm »
It has a major impact on the health of the unborn baby thatís being killed.  Their beating heart actually stops beating.  Stop relying on medical science from the 1960s.

But people don't accept your view that a fertilized egg is a human.

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« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2022, 01:02:03 pm »
Fertilized eggs donít have beating hearts.
So abortion is ok, is what you are saying...

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« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2022, 01:19:41 pm »
The flu shot like the covid vaccine is for personal protection from a severe case.

I believe member segnosaur provided you a study reference that busted your claim that the COVID vaccines don't protect against transmission/infection... I guess you missed it, hey! LOL!

and I guess I missed you citing reference(s) to support your claim - amirite?

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« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2022, 02:29:34 pm »
Yes, but you're their guardian and made that decision to get a medical procedure for them.  Similar to circumcision.

You mean made the decision to commit a horrific act of violence against them?

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If the state mandated that women get ear piercings or for men to be circumcisized or else they lose their jobs what would we say about that?

Yeah let's ignore the context of the discussion and talk about an unrelated and abstract hypothetical.

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« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2022, 02:30:42 pm »
It has a major impact on the health of the unborn baby thatís being killed.  Their beating heart actually stops beating.  Stop relying on medical science from the 1960s.

Why is a heartbeat relevant at all? "This thing has a heartbeat ergo it's a person" is primitive thinking and has nothing to do with science.
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Re: Trucker Rally
« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2022, 02:32:49 pm »
Why does "my body, my choice" apply to abortions but not vaccines?  Shouldn't the choice to get a vaccine not be left up to the individual and their doctor?

Why does pro-choice rhetoric about control over one's own body apply to abortions but not vaccines?

Pregnancy isn't contagious.

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You either have control over your own body or you don't.

False choice. There are times you have absolute control over your own body and times where the state regulates what you can do and where you can go and the determination of whether it's right or wrong should be based on the specific circumstances.
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« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2022, 12:04:02 am »
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The flu shot like the covid vaccine is for personal protection from a severe case.
I believe member segnosaur provided you a study reference that busted your claim that the COVID vaccines don't protect against transmission/infection... I guess you missed it, hey! LOL!

and I guess I missed you citing reference(s) to support your claim - amirite?
If it means anything, he was also wrong about influenza vaccines affecting transmission rates. Being vaccinated does reduce the chance of transmitting the flue to others.

See: https://pub.uni-bielefeld.de/record/2661294

So he failed twice: Influenza vaccines do prevent transmission of the flu, and Covid vaccines do prevent the transmission of Covid-19.
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« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2022, 12:23:33 am »
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You have always been opposed to how Canada got rid of polio and measles? Or you were just completely unaware?
Did it require mandatory vaccines?
Yes. (Often the vaccines were mandatory for school children, rather than adults, but since most people actually go to school at some point in their lives, everyone eventually got covered.)

From: https://www.historymuseum.ca/blog/vaccine-mandates/
In the late 1970s, a spike in measles cases pushed many Canadian provinces to enact mandatory vaccination policies in public schools. Many of these remain in place today

From: https://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/programs/immunization/docs/hcp_fact_sheets_polio.pdf
The polio vaccine is required for children to attend school in Ontario and for children attending a daycare centre
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Do you believe the state should mandate that people undergo medical procedures on their bodies?
If that 'procedure' is simple, safe, and involves preventing the transmission of a potentially deadly disease onto others? Then yes.

Here's an alternative... instead of mandating vaccines, whey don't we make it a law that if you AREN'T vaccinated, and you come down with covid, then anyone you have had contact with for the previous few days can then have you charged with assault. (Since you would have knowingly taken a course of action that has exposed people to an elevated risk of harm.)
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