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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2022, 02:37:49 pm »
I have no narrative here.  Like most groups like antifa, BLM, Trump voters etc I  assume there's a variety of people and agendas involved.  I assume there will be anti-science nutters involved as well as people who just don't agree with vaccine mandates.  What the breakdown is I have no idea.  Elon Musk is smarter than all of us, has been vaccinated, and supports the convoy, so this isn't so black and white as you're trying to paint it.


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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2022, 02:38:33 pm »
Libtards finally found an instance of civil disobedience they don’t like! 😂🤣

Right wing nut jobs found an instance of civil disobedience they like! 😂🤣

This is so easy.
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2022, 02:39:48 pm »
Libtards finally found an instance of civil disobedience they don’t like! 😂🤣

My irrational gut reaction to this protest - the "don't like" part - is "How come they can get people excited to act with a dumb thing like a Convoy but they can't get people excited to provide universal daycare ?"

We need a toddler convoy I guess...
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2022, 02:51:59 pm »
My irrational gut reaction to this protest - the "don't like" part - is "How come they can get people excited to act with a dumb thing like a Convoy but they can't get people excited to provide universal daycare ?"

We need a toddler convoy I guess...

It's almost as if the reasons for civil disobedience/protest matter and not simply the fact that it's happening.

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2022, 03:07:23 pm »
If there are credible threats of violence, and the local police are not large enough to deal with it, the military should be called in to defend parliament and Ottawa in general from any acts of terrorism/violence. 

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2022, 03:51:45 pm »
Yes.  These are mostly losers with spare time on their hands. Losers with fringe right-wing ideals, mind you….

Maybe they have spare time on their hands because as of Jan 15 the feds put any cross-border trucker who isn't vaccinated de-facto out of work?
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2022, 03:55:22 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2022, 03:56:49 pm »
Maybe they have spare time on their hands because as of Jan 15 the feds put any cross-border trucker who isn't vaccinated de-facto out of work?

If only there was some thing they could do to keep their jobs.
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2022, 04:00:35 pm »
The government has no authority! No justice no peace!

Even if the feds listened to these dummies, they still wouldn't be able to cross the border without a vaccine because the U.S. has the same rule.


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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2022, 04:01:42 pm »
Have you always been a fascist?

Fascism of course being when you suffer the consequences of your actions.

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2022, 04:43:17 pm »
These sorts of blatant lies and deliberate attempts to mislead Canadians are a threat to our democracy.

What "lies"?  What is "a threat to our democracy" specifically?  People peacefully protesting is people exercising their democracy.  Anyone who makes a violent threat or whatnot is indeed threatening our democracy.  As far as I know the organizers have not encouraged anything of the sort.  In fact they are doing the opposite:

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Organizer behind anti-vaccine mandate convoy says it won't tolerate extremists as online rhetoric heats up

A key player behind the convoy travelling to Ottawa to protest a vaccine mandate for truckers is distancing her movement from the increasingly extremist rhetoric online being associated with the protest and asking members of the convoy to report any extreme behaviour to police.

Addressing her Facebook followers in a video posted on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Facebook page, Tamara Lich said the convoy is expected to arrive at Parliament Hill in Ottawa over the weekend to protest what she calls infringements of personal liberty caused by public health orders.

"If you see participants along the way that are misbehaving, acting aggressively in any way or inciting any type of violence or hatred, please take down the truck number and their licence plate number so that we can forward that to the police," she said.

Since the convoy of trucks and other vehicles left B.C. and began snaking its way to Ottawa, extremists and fringe groups have taken to social media to encourage their followers to descend on the capital when the convoy arrives, calling on them to destroy property and threaten elected officials.

Some have called for another Jan. 6 — the day last year when Donald Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol Building. Others have called for politicians to be targeted, in what amounts to a growing threat that has security officials concerned, according to one senior government official who spoke to CBC News on background.

Lich said that everyone participating in the convoy must be registered with their "road captains" and anyone who does not behave in an orderly fashion "will be immediately removed."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/organizer-extremists-convoy-no-violence-1.6327650

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This group is full of MAGA-types who want this to be their “January 6” moment….

How many?  What %?  How do you know this, and what evidence do you have for this?  Maybe there are some MAGA-heads driving these trucks, i'd find that likely, but how prevalent are they?  And if there's a few extremists in the mix does that negate the legitimacy of the entire convoy?  It's like saying BLM or Antifa is a nutter movement just because some of them are violent anti-government extremists.

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The truckers have a manifesto, of sorts. 
https://canada-unity.com/mou/

The truckers are calling for sedition, and using imagery with burning crosses to get their point across.  And this is supported by MPs in the Conservative Party.

Who is calling for sedition?  Please be specific.  These sound like memes, maybe you're reading too many op-eds form "news" sites like "the national observer", whatever that is.  That MOU is not calling for sedition, in the document they're arguing that the government should uphold the constitution and human rights.  During the pandemic we have seen many of our Charter rights denied because of the pandemic.  Everyone has a Charter right to leave or enter the country, and essentially being under house-arrest (quarantine) because you traveled outside the country (which is our Charter right) is a violation of our freedom of movement.  I'm not saying I even agree with the truckers on this because we're dealing with a health emergency situation (pandemic), but I'm saying they do have legit concerns.  People are losing their jobs and businesses over these things.  We shouldn't take lightly government mandates and fines for walking in the park or simply leaving our house.  These are serious infringements on our most basic constitutional rights, and worthy of at least debate IMO.
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2022, 05:14:05 pm »
My irrational gut reaction to this protest - the "don't like" part - is "How come they can get people excited to act with a dumb thing like a Convoy but they can't get people excited to provide universal daycare ?"

We need a toddler convoy I guess...

It's a philosophical (ideological) difference.  They put a high value on civil liberty over government things like lockdowns or universal daycare.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2022, 05:29:35 pm »
Why would I put any weight whatsoever behind what Elon Musk says about it?  Do you think he made an actual informed opinion about, and if so, how do you know this from a one-lined tweet? 

What you’re doing is called an ‘argument from authority’ and assuming, because he carries some sort of gravitas for you that he must be correct on the issue. 

What he tweeted was a political opinion.  He has no special authority whatsoever for anyone to take his opinion seriously on the matter.  He just as likely got his info from Theo Fleury on Fox News when he told them there are 50,000 trucks.

My point was that Elon Musk is not anti-science (clearly) or anti-vaccine, but he's not a big fan of lockdowns and mandates.  He's not a dumb nutter.  This isn't an anti-vaccine protest, it's about government mandates.
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2022, 05:35:35 pm »
Right wing nut jobs found an instance of civil disobedience they like! 😂🤣

This is so easy.

The truckers plan to "bear hug" Ottawa and disrupt traffic downtown.  I don't agree with that at all, the same as indigenous people blocking railways etc.  Protest is speech, it's not blackmail.
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2022, 05:50:18 pm »
If only there was some thing they could do to keep their jobs.

Consenting to violence by having medicine injected into their bodies?

My body, my choice...except vaccines.  Your choice is violence or unemployment.  What a bunch of hypocrites.

Trudeau government:
- you WILL support pro-choice or you will be booted from the party.
- you WILL NOT use free speech to advocate pro-life stances or you will lose Canada Summer Jobs grant funding
- If you're a public servant you WILL have a metal needle pierce your skin and inject medicine inside your body or you will no longer work for us even if you work from home full-time.
- we WILL secretly track the smartphones and devices of all Canadians to study whether Canadians are following lockdowns: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-public-health-agency-admits-it-tracked-33-million-mobile-devices-during-lockdown
- we WILL attempt to access the bank accounts of Canadians to study their spending habits without their knowledge: https://globalnews.ca/news/4599953/exclusive-stats-canada-requesting-banking-information-of-500000-canadians-without-their-knowledge/

These people are Grade-A arseholse with authoritarian tendencies.
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