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Offline Black Dog

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Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1365 on: April 20, 2022, 05:06:46 pm »
Yes I know, perjury and obstruction based on a peaceful protest.  Honking can be annoying, I get it.  But I love how you idiots treat this like it's 911 or something.

Take it up with the crown prosecutor, loser. Ask them why your Nazi pal is catching so many charges.
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« Reply #1366 on: April 20, 2022, 06:09:54 pm »
"Blocking the supply chain" is terrorism?  LOL!  Good one.
Uh...yes, it is. It's also an act of war.

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« Reply #1367 on: April 22, 2022, 05:36:59 pm »
Yes I know, perjury and obstruction based on a peaceful protest.  Honking can be annoying, I get it.  But I love how you idiots treat this like it's 911 or something.

Perjury is about lying under oath in a court room. It has nothing to do with protesting. When are you starting a Go Fund Me for all the businesses that had to close down for a month and the people who lost work because of it?
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« Reply #1368 on: April 22, 2022, 07:13:35 pm »
Uh...yes, it is. It's also an act of war.

It's illegal, it's not terrorism.  Terrorism is violence or threats of violence.
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« Reply #1369 on: April 28, 2022, 11:07:57 am »
oh my waldo, oh my!

facing charges of mischief, counselling mischief, intimidation, counselling intimidation, counselling obstruction of police and obstructing police, Tamara Lich, one of the principal organizers of the "Trucker Freedom Convoy", is currently out of jail on bail.

that the 'Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms' has confirmed it provided legal assistance and advice in representing the 'Freedom Convoy 2022' in Ottawa, it is only fitting that it awards Ms. Lich the, George Jonas Freedom Award, at a June ceremony in Toronto... special bonus has Rex Murphy as keynote speaker at the event!


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« Reply #1370 on: April 29, 2022, 02:28:44 am »
I am surprised that this has not been mentioned...

From: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/here-s-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-rolling-thunder-ottawa-biker-demonstration-1.5879516
Ottawa police and city officials continue to prepare for the "Rolling Thunder" event arriving in capital this weekend. More than 500 motorcycles are expected to take part in the demonstration, which will include events on Parliament Hill and at the National War Memorial.
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The "Rolling Thunder Ottawa" website offers no information about the group, including the purpose for the event this weekend in Ottawa.


Also see:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/rolling-thunder-rally-freedom-convoy-1.6433308
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/we-cannot-let-this-go-unchallenged-unwelcome-party-plans-to-send-message-to-rolling-thunder-ottawa-event-1.5880846

Supposedly they are there to complain about the "desecration" of the war memorial (i.e. the fencing the government put up around it after people from the "freedom convoy" earlier this year were seen dancing on the monument). Police have plans in place to limit access to streets around parliament in order to prevent the circus that occurred earlier this year.

So much of this smells funny...

- The sketchiness of the organizers by not providing a more full disclosure on their web site (I don't think people even knew what this protest was supposed to be about until recently)

- Several of the organizers of "Rolling Thunder" were involves with the "freedom convoy" (and we seen how well that worked out, what the protesters robbing and abusing residents in the area, and causing lots of disturbances)

- Their web site highlights a speech from Chris Sky, who has a track record involving various legal problems (including making threats), holocaust denial, and racist rhetoric. Yet the organizers claim they "have no connection" to him.... Um, then why are they publicizing his speech?


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Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1371 on: April 29, 2022, 03:09:39 am »
Since Shiddy is either too lazy or stupid to learn how to link to actual articles:

Durham cop who posted video supporting 'Freedom Convoy' facing police act charges

Turns out that publicly voicing political opinions on your employers' time, wearing your employers' uniform and driving your employers' vehicle is a pretty dumb idea!
Not only just "voicing political opinions", but doing so in support of an activity that has featured multiple breaches of the law. (You know, the law... the thing she was hired to actually enforce.)

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« Reply #1373 on: June 21, 2022, 02:09:56 pm »
skippy doubles-down... uhhh, apparently! Nothing officially stated by Poilievre but the 'Canada Day Convoy' touts his support:


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« Reply #1374 on: June 21, 2022, 06:59:55 pm »
The sun is setting on populism... maybe he's not the genius he pretends to be.

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« Reply #1375 on: June 21, 2022, 08:17:19 pm »
The sun is setting on populism... maybe he's not the genius he pretends to be.

Populist politicians should appeal to the common denominator, not the lowest common denominator.
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« Reply #1376 on: June 21, 2022, 11:20:07 pm »
The sun is setting on populism... maybe he's not the genius he pretends to be.

I don't think many people mistake Skippy for a genius.

nonetheless, on populism:

https://jacobin.com/2022/04/canadian-left-freedom-convoy-populism
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Over the course of the pandemic, the Left has largely been missing in action. Thus far, there has been no political force challenging the rise of Poilievre. As he and the lurking convoy movement build upon their shared affinities, the Left seems to have abandoned the field. Canada’s institutional left — to the extent that it exists — appears to be unable or unwilling to speak to the populist impulses of those who are drawn to the movement but who may yet be reachable. It has thereby left a political space ripe for a pro-youth, pro-worker agenda in the hands of cynical right-wing operators.

The convoy organizers and their supporters, along with Poilievre and his, are making political hay out of issues that are normally the Left’s bread and butter — issues such as good jobs, housing, health care, and sick leave. While many who support convoy politics may be beyond reach — extremists who cannot be reasoned with nor converted — it would be foolish for the Left to cede this ground entirely. Indeed, the Left should pursue a policy of conversion, one that can redirect the anger of these folks.

It should be regarded as no accident that in 2016, when a populist movement carried Trump to victory over his establishment opponents, an equally fervent populist movement propelled Bernie Sanders to a serious challenge of Hillary Clinton's position of prohibitive front-runner.


Voters are regular people who just want to know why they can't get ahead in the world. People who want to know why they work harder and prices go up and their wages don't. People who see the stock market numbers go up and the unemployment index go down and ask "why am I just as broke as before?"

Populism, it seems to me, should be aimed directly at those people. It used to be, didn't it? So why has "populism" become a dirty word?

The left is supposed to have BETTER answers for people like that (which is most of us) than the likes of Trump or Poilievre. So why can't the left reach those voters? Why did the "Rust Belt" states flip to Trump in 2016? Why didn't Biden win a resounding victory in "the Rust Belt" in 2020? Why did Ontario unions support Ford instead of Horvath in the recent Ontario election?  Why does it seem like "the left" has become the choice of Ivory Tower egg-heads and completely lost the blue-collar voter who used to be their base?

One of the post-mortems of the Ontario election I read said that Horvath's campaign was a big hit with Twitter people but a complete miss with real voters. Anybody disagree?

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« Reply #1377 on: June 22, 2022, 01:28:53 am »
Marco Maraschino said that police forces told him that then needed the Emergency Act to deal with the trucker convoy.

But under oath the Ottawa police chief(s) and the RCMP chief all said that they didn't ask for the Emergency Act to be invoked.

So is Marco Maraschino a big fat liar?  And also, does Marco Maraschino look like a live-action version of the claymation guy from Wallace & Gromit or is it just me??

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Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1378 on: June 22, 2022, 04:46:37 am »
Your answer is in the questions.
Ivory tower types are in control but not relatable to regular folks.
The left quietly won the pandemic by applying massive government intervention that worked.

But there's no populist anger in that.

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« Reply #1379 on: June 22, 2022, 06:16:30 am »
Quote from: Ottawa Police Chief Steve Bells
The use of the Emergencies Act was very useful, beneficial and necessary to bring an end to the Ottawa blockades.

Quote from: Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson
The Emergencies Act was needed to help resolve many issues during the Freedom Convoy. The biggest issue was that we couldn't get these vehicles out of there because we didn't have the ability to force tow truck companies to come to our aid.

Quote from: Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino
After consultations with law enforcement it was understood by all that you needed to invoke the act. The powers police needed to end the weeks-long blockade in downtown Ottawa found themselves in the Emergencies Act. The request was for the powers, which required the invocation of the Emergencies Act.

I agree we need to scrutinize the invocation of the Emergencies Act, and government is co-operating both with the special committee and the public inquiry tasked with doing so.