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Offline Spike The Hike Shady

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« Reply #525 on: February 09, 2022, 10:16:14 am »
Covid restrictions were so bad for kids you guys.


They were.  For their development and education.  Your side are child abusers.

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« Reply #526 on: February 09, 2022, 10:22:04 am »
Covid restrictions were so bad for kids you guys.

(graph showing deaths among kids in the U.S.)
But those kids should be proud to die of covid so that people like shady can go drink in a bar without a mask. Freeedum!!!

Of course, he also ignores the fact that in Canada, while there were some restrictions on in-class learning, SOME education still took place since the start of the pandemic. (Some on line, some in class). Ontario opened its schools mid-January for in-person learning. Not only are the kids missing out on the in-class learning they can be doing now, they are also not in a situation that is good for on-line or self-education.

Not to mention that the issue isn't just schooling... even if a student was restricted to on-line learning for part of the pandemic, at least they weren't stuck in a truck, listening to loud horns blaring for hours on end and choking on exhaust fumes and having to find a portapotty in freezing cold weather.

Offline Spike The Hike Shady

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« Reply #527 on: February 09, 2022, 10:36:13 am »
But those kids should be proud to die of covid so that people like shady can go drink in a bar without a mask. Freeedum!!!

Of course, he also ignores the fact that in Canada, while there were some restrictions on in-class learning, SOME education still took place since the start of the pandemic. (Some on line, some in class). Ontario opened its schools mid-January for in-person learning. Not only are the kids missing out on the in-class learning they can be doing now, they are also not in a situation that is good for on-line or self-education.

Not to mention that the issue isn't just schooling... even if a student was restricted to on-line learning for part of the pandemic, at least they weren't stuck in a truck, listening to loud horns blaring for hours on end and choking on exhaust fumes and having to find a portapotty in freezing cold weather.
The flu is more dangerous to kids than covid is, you should actually look at the science instead of relying on your irrational fear.  You should speak to parents too.  Keep cheering on ****.

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« Reply #528 on: February 09, 2022, 10:39:34 am »
The flu is more dangerous to kids than covid is, you should actually look at the science instead of relying on your irrational fear.  You should speak to parents too.  Keep cheering on ****.

COVID restrictions kept a lot of kids from dying but some of them had bad school experiences so it's impossible to tell if they are good or not.

Man do you even have kids?
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Offline Spike The Hike Shady

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« Reply #529 on: February 09, 2022, 10:49:30 am »
COVID restrictions kept a lot of kids from dying but some of them had bad school experiences so it's impossible to tell if they are good or not.

Man do you even have kids?
No they didn’t keep a lot of kids from dying.  The flu has a higher mortality rate for children than covid.  Children that are immune compromised or high risk could have done remote learning while everyone else went to school.  Everyone recognizes keep schools closed was wrong.  You people are like the Japanese soldiers surrendering from world war 2 I. 2974.

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« Reply #530 on: February 09, 2022, 10:53:45 am »
No they didn’t keep a lot of kids from dying.

Are you arguing with the chart I posted?

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The flu has a higher mortality rate for children than covid.  Children that are immune compromised or high risk could have done remote learning while everyone else went to school.

See here you are focusing on COVID and ignoring all the other health and safety risks (including the flu). You need to stop with your single variable thinking.

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Everyone recognizes keep schools closed was wrong.

Who is "everyone"?

Offline Spike The Hike Shady

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« Reply #531 on: February 09, 2022, 11:04:33 am »
Are you arguing with the chart I posted?

See here you are focusing on COVID and ignoring all the other health and safety risks (including the flu). You need to stop with your single variable thinking.

Who is "everyone"?
Like literally everyone.  Your stance is anti-science and anti-children.  How you can continue to defend this nonsense is an abomination.

School Closures Were a Catastrophic Error. Progressives Still Haven’t Reckoned With It.

"That unnerving implication has a mounting pile of evidence to support it. It is now indisputable, and almost undisputed, that the year and a quarter of virtual school imposed devastating consequences on the students who endured it. Studies have found that virtual school left students nearly half a year behind pace, on average, with the learning loss falling disproportionately on low-income, Latino, and Black students. Perhaps a million students functionally dropped out of school altogether.

The social isolation imposed on kids caused a mental health “state of emergency,” according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. The damage to a generation of children’s social development and educational attainment, and particularly to the social mobility prospects of its most marginalized members, will be irrecoverable."


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/progressives-must-reckon-with-the-school-closing-catastrophe.html

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« Reply #532 on: February 09, 2022, 11:06:45 am »
In practice this means you would consider civil rights protesters violating the law by sitting at a segregated lunch counter to be the same as the pro-segregation protesters assaulting them.

No because assaulting someone is a far worse crime than sitting at a counter.  You're more than welcome to break the law in either case as long as you understand that you can be held accountable by the law.  Nelson Mandela spent decades in prison.

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LOL wow, so it turns out breaking the law is actually ok if you do so in a manner Mr. Graham finds acceptable which shows how hollow your "axshualllly everyone should obey the law" pose is.

No, see above.  You're the one that says breaking the law is ok depending on what you personally find acceptable or not.  Apparently that includes people throwing tantrums by destroying and looting innocent peoples property.

At least it would kinda make sense if they focused their rage on police or government property since that's who they're protesting. But tantruming toddlers usually don't think that much. I mean you throw tantrums here on a very regular basis, you're only interested in getting your way, not in civil dialogue, as is the toddler way.

Squiggy is the same. Anger, resentment, insults, and otherwise consistently behaving like children.  How embarrassing.
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« Reply #533 on: February 09, 2022, 11:16:52 am »
No because assaulting someone is a far worse crime than sitting at a counter. You're more than welcome to break the law in either case as long as you understand that you can be held accountable by the law. Nelson Mandela spent decades in prison.

"I don't agree with the law calling for Jews to be rounded up, but the law is the law and we must respect that."

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No, see above. You're the one that says breaking the law is ok depending on what you personally find acceptable or not. 

Yeah most normal people are beholden to higher moral principles than "the law is the law and must be obeyed."

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Apparently that includes people throwing tantrums by destroying and looting innocent peoples property.

Where'd I say that was ok?

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At least it would kinda make sense if they focused their rage on police or government property since that's who they're protesting. But tantruming toddlers usually don't think that much. I mean you throw tantrums here on a very regular basis, you're only interested in getting your way, not in civil dialogue, as is the toddler way.

Squiggy is the same. Anger, resentment, insults, and otherwise consistently behaving like children.  How embarrassing.

You're too thick to see the irony here aren't you?
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« Reply #534 on: February 09, 2022, 11:19:04 am »
Like literally everyone.  Your stance is anti-science and anti-children.  How you can continue to defend this nonsense is an abomination.

School Closures Were a Catastrophic Error. Progressives Still Haven’t Reckoned With It.

"That unnerving implication has a mounting pile of evidence to support it. It is now indisputable, and almost undisputed, that the year and a quarter of virtual school imposed devastating consequences on the students who endured it. Studies have found that virtual school left students nearly half a year behind pace, on average, with the learning loss falling disproportionately on low-income, Latino, and Black students. Perhaps a million students functionally dropped out of school altogether.

The social isolation imposed on kids caused a mental health “state of emergency,” according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. The damage to a generation of children’s social development and educational attainment, and particularly to the social mobility prospects of its most marginalized members, will be irrecoverable."


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/progressives-must-reckon-with-the-school-closing-catastrophe.html

I know you're a single variable thinker, but this doesn't reckon with unintended positive consequences of COVID restrictions, which include, as I posted, a reduction in child mortality. Any discussion of the harms needs to account for that.

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« Reply #535 on: February 09, 2022, 11:24:16 am »
I know you're a single variable thinker, but this doesn't reckon with unintended positive consequences of COVID restrictions, which include, as I posted, a reduction in child mortality. Any discussion of the harms needs to account for that.
Keep ignoring the science.  I’ll keep laughing at you.  Now get bank on your island, there’s a war still going on! 😂🤣

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« Reply #536 on: February 09, 2022, 11:59:56 am »
Keep ignoring the science.  I’ll keep laughing at you.  Now get bank on your island, there’s a war still going on! 😂🤣

I set this exchange up to show how you are an idealogical fanatic and you played your part perfectly.

I posted a piece of information that showed a precipitous decline in child mortality in 2020, which a normal person would maybe find interesting. Not you, though! You simply had to find a way to shoehorn it into your culture war COVID obsession to the point where you outright denied the information in front of you because you're stupid and incurious and only interested in "science" the confirms your priors (like the ludicrous "Johns Hopkins" study you keep banging on about).

Anyway, I've certainly never denied the unintended negative consequences of school closures, but what gets me about the conclusion that schools should have stayed open because COVID doesn't harm kids is it somehow ignores the part where kids aren't the only people in schools. The fact the recent Omnicron wave led to teacher shortages in multiple districts due to illness would suggest that school closures during the early days of the pandemic and through the Delta wave probably saved lives as many teachers and staff in those earlier waves would have been at greater risk because of the lack of vaccines. But that doesn't matter to you because you're not interested in saving lives, and you definitely don't actually give a **** about the children. You're just playing your dumb part and reading from your dumb script in your ongoing sad and futile effort to own the libs because that's the only thing you seem to have in your life.
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« Reply #537 on: February 09, 2022, 12:11:00 pm »
Shutting down the Ambassador Bridge is not a good idea.

This is making up to be a war of West vs East in the making...

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« Reply #538 on: February 09, 2022, 12:32:17 pm »
Shutting down the Ambassador Bridge is not a good idea.

This is making up to be a war of West vs East in the making...
Trudeau could end it all today, but just relinquishing on his meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.

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« Reply #539 on: February 09, 2022, 12:34:33 pm »
Trudeau could end it all today, but just relinquishing on his meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.

Which would have no impact right ?

Would also send the message that a few hundred trucks can change legislation... they don't even do this for native protests.
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