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Offline segnosaur

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Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #420 on: February 08, 2022, 09:40:27 am »
I like how the trucker convoy is made out to be some white supremacist protest and yet I've seen a grand total of zero big rigs in Ottawa flying a swastika, confederate flag, or any other racist symbol.  If someone can post an example I'll be waiting...
First of all, the presence of the swastika and confederate flags is not the only evidence of participation by white supremacist groups. (I have posted a reference showing some of the organizers have such ties.)

Secondly... nobody claimed that the swastika/confederate flags were on the rigs. They were, however, carried by those in the crowd.

See: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/4/ottawa-residents-decry-anti-vaccine-trucker-occupation

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« Reply #421 on: February 08, 2022, 09:42:40 am »
First of all, the presence of the swastika and confederate flags is not the only evidence of participation by white supremacist groups. (I have posted a reference showing some of the organizers have such ties.)

Secondly... nobody claimed that the swastika/confederate flags were on the rigs. They were, however, carried by those in the crowd.

See: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/4/ottawa-residents-decry-anti-vaccine-trucker-occupation
Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

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« Reply #422 on: February 08, 2022, 09:46:13 am »
Are death threats part of the legitimate political discourse? Is this just something that we can chalk up to the "peaceful" protests?

From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-convoy-protest-shack-towed-reaction-1.6342357
An Ottawa tow truck operator says he has received hundreds of calls, including death threats, from protest supporters who mistakenly believe he removed a plywood shack from Confederation Park at the request of police, when he was actually helping protesters.

Admittedly, there is a little bit of Schadenfreude going on here (since he was supportive of the truckers and doing the work for their benefit).

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« Reply #423 on: February 08, 2022, 09:51:55 am »
Are death threats part of the legitimate political discourse? Is this just something that we can chalk up to the "peaceful" protests?

From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-convoy-protest-shack-towed-reaction-1.6342357
An Ottawa tow truck operator says he has received hundreds of calls, including death threats, from protest supporters who mistakenly believe he removed a plywood shack from Confederation Park at the request of police, when he was actually helping protesters.

Admittedly, there is a little bit of Schadenfreude going on here (since he was supportive of the truckers and doing the work for their benefit).
Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

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« Reply #424 on: February 08, 2022, 09:53:26 am »
Remember when libtards called BLM riots mostly peaceful when there were building on fire?  Yeah, me too, that’s why their concern trolling has zero credibility.
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Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #425 on: February 08, 2022, 09:56:14 am »
Remember when libtards called BLM riots mostly peaceful when there were building on fire?  Yeah, me too, that’s why their concern trolling has zero credibility.
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The facts, as always, don't care about your feelings.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html

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« Reply #426 on: February 08, 2022, 10:05:24 am »
The facts, as always, don't care about your feelings.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html
Yup, as your article states:

- > 90% of the protests were peaceful
- When there was violence, it was often due to police response to the protests (such as using tear gas, taking an otherwise peaceful protest and escalating it)
- Right wing militia groups also were involved, adding to the violence

And then there is this:

From: https://abcnews.go.com/US/turning-point-black-lives-matter-organizers-wing-backlash/story?id=72863444
In a more measured response, U.S. Attorney General William Barr released a statement on May 30 that attempted to separate the rioters from the peaceful protesters. "With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful protest are being hijacked by violent radical elements,” Barr said, adding that “groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda.'.... two lawyers, who claim to have no affiliation with BLM, were arrested in Brooklyn, New York, on federal charges after being caught on surveillance video allegedly hurling Molotov cocktails....police in Santa Monica, California, thwarted what they said appeared to be a coordinated looting spree being perpetrated by non-protesters using a demonstration as cover.... police alleged that gang members and "opportunist action by regular criminals" were responsible for looting stores...Philadelphia police said criminals used BLM protests as camouflage for a crime rampage

I think it says something when even William Barr (one of Stubby McBonespur's big defenders in his administration) admits that much of the crime and violence attributed to BLM protests had nothing to do with the protesters themselves.

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« Reply #427 on: February 08, 2022, 10:09:47 am »
The facts, as always, don't care about your feelings.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html
Yes, burning buildings are always a sign of peaceful protest. 😂

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« Reply #428 on: February 08, 2022, 10:10:41 am »
Yup, as your article states:

- > 90% of the protests were peaceful
- When there was violence, it was often due to police response to the protests (such as using tear gas, taking an otherwise peaceful protest and escalating it)
- Right wing militia groups also were involved, adding to the violence

And then there is this:

From: https://abcnews.go.com/US/turning-point-black-lives-matter-organizers-wing-backlash/story?id=72863444
In a more measured response, U.S. Attorney General William Barr released a statement on May 30 that attempted to separate the rioters from the peaceful protesters. "With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful protest are being hijacked by violent radical elements,” Barr said, adding that “groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda.'.... two lawyers, who claim to have no affiliation with BLM, were arrested in Brooklyn, New York, on federal charges after being caught on surveillance video allegedly hurling Molotov cocktails....police in Santa Monica, California, thwarted what they said appeared to be a coordinated looting spree being perpetrated by non-protesters using a demonstration as cover.... police alleged that gang members and "opportunist action by regular criminals" were responsible for looting stores...Philadelphia police said criminals used BLM protests as camouflage for a crime rampage

I think it says something when even William Barr (one of Stubby McBonespur's big defenders in his administration) admits that much of the crime and violence attributed to BLM protests had nothing to do with the protesters themselves.
90% huh?  Cool, that’s almost as high as the convoy protest! 😂

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Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #429 on: February 08, 2022, 10:13:35 am »
I like how you had to specify that the flag had to be attached to a rig so you could duck the fact that Nazi and Confederate flags have been spotted at the protest. In any case, here's a pic of a big rig with the flag of the Three Percenters, a designated terrorist group.

Right because some random racist dude who lives in Ottawa and shows up with a confederate flag isn't a part of the convoy.

The 3 Percenters aren't a racist/nazi/white supremacist group so the Graham Challenge remains unclaimed.
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« Reply #430 on: February 08, 2022, 10:14:31 am »
Yes, burning buildings are always a sign of peaceful protest. 😂

It must suck for you to have all these deep seeded beliefs that are so easily proven to be utter bullshit.

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« Reply #431 on: February 08, 2022, 10:16:58 am »
It must suck for you to have all these deep seeded beliefs that are so easily proven to be utter bullshit.
Hey Baghdad Bob, the building is literally on fire.

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« Reply #432 on: February 08, 2022, 10:21:23 am »
Right because some random racist dude who lives in Ottawa and shows up with a confederate flag isn't a part of the convoy.

Now do the organizers.

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The 3 Percenters aren't a racist/nazi/white supremacist group so the Graham Challenge remains unclaimed.

Just two examples from the ADL:

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Clarence, Illinois, July 2018: Michael Hari and several other members of a small militia group dubbed the "White Rabbit Three Percent Illinois Patriot Freedom Fighters Militia" were arrested on a variety of charges in connection to the bombing of a mosque in Minnesota in August 2017, and the failed bombing of an abortion clinic in Illinois in November 2017.

Garden City, Kansas, October 2016: Three members of a tiny Kansas militia group dubbed The Crusaders, an offshoot of the Kansas III% Security Force militia, were arrested in connection with a plot to use truck bombs to destroy an apartment complex housing Muslim immigrants from Somalia.

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Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #433 on: February 08, 2022, 10:21:47 am »
Hey Baghdad Bob, the building is literally on fire.

I love how you're still too goddamned stupid to understand how this argument can be easily flipped on its head to indict your convoy chuds. Whataboutism is a two-way street you know.
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« Reply #434 on: February 08, 2022, 10:49:19 am »
I love how you're still too goddamned stupid to understand how this argument can be easily flipped on its head to indict your convoy chuds. Whataboutism is a two-way street you know.
You’re the one categorizing all of the convoy protesters based on the actions of the very few.  Why don’t you do the same with every group?  Hypocrite.  The building was literally on fire dude.  You’re a clown show.