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Offline wilber

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« Reply #390 on: February 07, 2022, 06:05:15 pm »
Btw, even though I support this protest, I do realize that there’s a law of diminishing returns.  You can’t continue indefinitely, and if I were in charge of the protest, I would announce Valentine’s Day as the day the protest begins to withdraw.  The point has been made.

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« Reply #391 on: February 07, 2022, 06:08:18 pm »
I guess you the whole "Memorandum of Understanding" thing where they wanted to replace the government leaked out of one of the holes in your head, huh?

That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).
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« Reply #392 on: February 07, 2022, 06:13:48 pm »
Btw, even though I support this protest, I do realize that there’s a law of diminishing returns.  You can’t continue indefinitely, and if I were in charge of the protest, I would announce Valentine’s Day as the day the protest begins to withdraw.  The point has been made.

They have a right to protest, they don't have a right to honk their horns to cause a nuisance (disturbing the peace) or the right to illegally park in the middle of public streets.

Blackmail using public infrastructure isn't a legal protest tactic.  Protest is speech, it's not a license to do whatever you want and break the law.
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« Reply #393 on: February 07, 2022, 06:23:12 pm »
Jagoff Singh is now saying that the convoy protesters want to overthrow the government!  😂🤣

Singh is a liar then.  The truckers are a public nuisance and that's the extent of their threat.  They're breaking city bylaws, they aren't trying to commit treason lol.

The hyperbole and panic on much of the left caused by these protests is hilarious.  People are freaking out even in this thread.  It's just some trucks parked in the street.
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« Reply #394 on: February 07, 2022, 06:41:43 pm »
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I guess you the whole "Memorandum of Understanding" thing where they wanted to replace the government leaked out of one of the holes in your head, huh?
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).
Both the Senate and the GG are unelected. Demanding that they override the actions of democratically elected representatives should be seen as... questionable. Its not exactly an 'overthrow' of the government, but it still is calling for actions which are undemocratic.

(If there really was a possible issue with constitutionality, it would have been up to the supreme court to decide, not the senate or GG.)
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« Reply #395 on: February 07, 2022, 06:47:29 pm »
They have a right to protest, they don't have a right to honk their horns to cause a nuisance (disturbing the peace) or the right to illegally park in the middle of public streets.

Blackmail using public infrastructure isn't a legal protest tactic.  Protest is speech, it's not a license to do whatever you want and break the law.

You just described everything that they’re doing…. It’s not a protest at all. 
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« Reply #396 on: February 07, 2022, 06:48:41 pm »
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).

They wanted the Senate and GG to take over governing Canada? 

Why, that doesn’t sound like they wanted to replace the government at all. 

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« Reply #397 on: February 07, 2022, 06:55:43 pm »
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).

Both the Senate and the GG are unelected. Demanding that they override the actions of democratically elected representatives should be seen as... questionable. Its not exactly an 'overthrow' of the government, but it still is calling for actions which are undemocratic.

(If there really was a possible issue with constitutionality, it would have been up to the supreme court to decide, not the senate or GG.)
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« Reply #398 on: February 07, 2022, 06:56:28 pm »
I almost spit out my coffee when I first saw this! 😂
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« Reply #399 on: February 07, 2022, 07:10:13 pm »
Now Trudeau’s lackey Mark Carney is talking insurrection and sedition.  It’s like they’re using a cookie cutter delegitimization tutorial guide on loan from Democrats.

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« Reply #400 on: February 07, 2022, 07:10:58 pm »
Well Givesendgo is the same outfit that fund raised for the January 6 rioters, Kyle Rittenhouse and the Proud Boys among others.

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Speaking of "The company you keep"... not sure if this has been posted yet (the thread has moved fast so its not always easy to keep caught up)....

From: https://globalnews.ca/news/8543281/covid-trucker-convoy-organizers-hate/
...anti-hate experts allege those with white nationalist and Islamophobic views don’t just represent the fringes of the movement but are among the organizers of the convoy.... Global News contacted all the organizers mentioned in this story, but none responded by the time of publication. Jason LaFace, an Ontario organizer, did pick up the call, but upon the reporter identifying themselves, immediately laughed, said “no thank you,” and hung up....There is a GoFundMe page...That fundraiser has two names on it: Tamara Lich, and B.J. Dichter....B.J. Dichter warned listeners about the dangers of “political Islamists,” and said the Liberal Party is “infested with Islamists.”...Another dominant voice within the convoy community is a man named Patrick King....In other video footage, King can be seen repeating racist conspiracy theories.... Jason LaFace...shared an image titled “Canadian politicians who are not born in Canada” and included his own caption: “traitors to our country.”

Its amazing that so many of the protesters talk about 'peace', but more and more of these sorts of things keep popping up...

"We want a peaceful protest"
But what about the people with white nationalist ties organizing it?
"Well, that's unimportant. We're here for freedom"
But what about the people carrying nazi and confederate flags?
"Ignore them, its all about freedom"
But what about them dancing and urinating on the war memorial?
"They're not important"
But what about them stealing food meant for the homeless?
"They don't represent us"
What about them harassing patients at local medical clinics?
"Well, that's not everyone doing that"
What about them harassing business owners?
"Not everyone is doing that"

I recognize that protests can sometimes attract malcontents, but just how often can these excuses be used? And why would anyone continue to be associated with the protest given all of the above issues? (I'm not sure about you, but if I show up anywhere and people are waving nazi flags or urinating on the war memorial, I am not going to stick around, since I have no interest in being associated with such people. Yet the rest of the protesters seem to be quite content to continue associating with a group that contains such elements.)

The MAGAchud of course try to engage in "Whataboutism" and point to the black lives matters protests, which were mostly peaceful but had occasional episodes of violence and other crimes break out. But even, many of the crimes associated with the BLM movement were actually done by people who were unassociated with the protests and just wanted to use it as a cover for their activities. (And, it should be noted, many BLM organizers have actually confronted/reported those engaging in crimes.) Where do we see the equivalent with the trucker protests? Why are the remaining protesters who are supposedly all about "peace" not reporting the criminals among their ranks?

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« Reply #401 on: February 07, 2022, 07:11:06 pm »
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).

Both the Senate and the GG are unelected. Demanding that they override the actions of democratically elected representatives should be seen as... questionable. Its not exactly an 'overthrow' of the government, but it still is calling for actions which are undemocratic.

(If there really was a possible issue with constitutionality, it would have been up to the supreme court to decide, not the senate or GG.)

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« Reply #402 on: February 07, 2022, 07:12:21 pm »
Now the mayor of Ottawa is complaining about the convoy protest having bouncy castles and hot tubs.  Nothing says overthrow the government than a group of people with festival activities! 😂

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« Reply #403 on: February 07, 2022, 07:14:39 pm »
You just described everything that they’re doing…. It’s not a protest at all.

Well it is a protest, but many are also doing it while committing a bunch of nuisance crimes and they need to stop committing said crimes.

I support peaceful protest, not illegal activity.  My standard is no different with antifa rioters.
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« Reply #404 on: February 07, 2022, 07:17:54 pm »
They wanted the Senate and GG to take over governing Canada? 

Why, that doesn’t sound like they wanted to replace the government at all.

They are saying the Senate and GG is a check on the power of the House of Commons/PMO, which is true.  But by convention that's only used in the case of extreme circumstances because they're unelected, and vaccine mandates aren't an extreme circumstance.  The truckers should use the courts.
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