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Offline Woke Trans Shady

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« Reply #90 on: February 01, 2022, 07:16:34 pm »
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« Reply #91 on: February 01, 2022, 07:57:31 pm »
People who hid Jews from the Nazis were criminals. The freedom riders and other civil rights campaigners were criminals (and even their peaceful protests were deeply unpopular at the time). What's right and what's legal are not always the same thing and I genuinely am less interested in the fact of someone committing a crime (especially crimes against property) than I am in their reasons for doing so.

Nazi Germany was a fascist totalitarian dictatorship.  There was no way to change the anti-Jew laws or stop them from being thrown in the gas chambers.  We live in a democracy and we have a Charter of Rights.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion in a democracy.  Your opinion of what should be legal or not isn't any more important or righteous than anyone else's, that's decided by democracy. 

Floyd rioters didn't organize a giant protest rally in Washington DC or Minnesota like MLK did, they went straight to the riots and looting.  I have more respect for civil disobedience like Rosa Parks than lashing out in anger via violence and destruction.  I have a lot of respect for MLK and Gandhi.  Sometimes they broke the law but avoided actions with negative energy and violence and remained peaceful but got results.
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« Reply #92 on: February 01, 2022, 08:08:03 pm »
Lets see now....

BLM protesters were complaining about unequal treatment of black people in society. We know that that is a problem... a string of publicized killings/shootings by officers targeting black people are evidence of that. (Also consider how sometimes laws are applied unequally. For example: despite marijuana use being roughly the same for black and white people, black people were more than twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession.)

There was a problem, nothing seemed to be done to address the problem, so people protested.

It should also be noted that even though they were widespread, the majority of protests were peaceful.

Compare that to the Trucker "freedom rally"... their protests are not based on legitimate concerns, but cries about "Mah Freedum", often accompanied by bad science and moronic rhetoric.

So one group wanting to address a real problem in society, the other wanting the right to spread a potentially deadly disease among the population.

What you think of the righteousness of a protest is 100% irrelevant.  You don't get to get away with violence, arson, vandalism etc because you think your cause is righteous.  Every protestor in the history of protests thinks their cause is righteous.

Protesting peacefully is a protected act (speech) and is very different than violent and destructive acts.  People have double-standards because of their political biases and its nonsense.

I 100% support the peaceful BLM protests btw.
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« Reply #93 on: February 01, 2022, 08:14:19 pm »
What you think of the righteousness of a protest is 100% irrelevant.  You don't get to get away with violence, arson, vandalism etc because you think your cause is righteous.  Every protestor in the history of protests thinks their cause is righteous.

Protesting peacefully is a protected act (speech) and is very different than violent and destructive acts.  People have double-standards because of their political biases and its nonsense.

I 100% support the peaceful BLM protests btw.

The truckers werenít peaceful. They ran around hotels unmasked, harassed/assaulted homeless, harassed staff and blocked roads.

The truckers are like childish anarchists.  With a hint of white supremacy and imported MAGA nonsense.

The police should have been much more prepared.  I have a relative who manages a large hotel in downtown. The hotel tried to trespass dozens of them and refuse them service, but police werenít responding.  Thatís not a peaceful protest.
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« Reply #94 on: February 01, 2022, 08:31:58 pm »
The truckers werenít peaceful. They ran around hotels unmasked, harassed/assaulted homeless, harassed staff and blocked roads.

The truckers are like childish anarchists.  With a hint of white supremacy and imported MAGA nonsense.

The police should have been much more prepared.  I have a relative who manages a large hotel in downtown. The hotel tried to trespass dozens of them and refuse them service, but police werenít responding.  Thatís not a peaceful protest.

The protesters that broke laws or harassed people I condemn and so should we all.  What % of the protesters were peaceful?  Like 95%?  The number of large protests this size that's 100% peaceful has to be close to 0%.

You keep trying to paint all the protesters with a single brush based on a small minority of troublemakers.  Your arguments are in bad faith and dishonest.  Stop making up lies.  We get it, a small% of protesters were jerks, what's your point?  That this was everyone?  That's factually incorrect and you can't handle it.
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« Reply #95 on: February 01, 2022, 08:49:01 pm »
The protesters that broke laws or harassed people I condemn and so should we all.  What % of the protesters were peaceful?  Like 95%?  The number of large protests this size that's 100% peaceful has to be close to 0%.

You keep trying to paint all the protesters with a single brush based on a small minority of troublemakers.  Your arguments are in bad faith and dishonest.  Stop making up lies.  We get it, a small% of protesters were jerks, what's your point?  That this was everyone?  That's factually incorrect and you can't handle it.
I also condemn anyone that broke any laws, but itís funny how youíre not allowed to paint large groups of people with a so-called broad brush, unless itís conservatives.   Itís also interesting that the pearl clutchers now so concerned with statues monuments and businesses didnít give a damn about all of this during left wing riots and protests in 2020.  They have zero credibility.  Itís just an attempt to silence people they disagree with now.

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« Reply #96 on: February 01, 2022, 09:12:08 pm »
You keep trying to paint all the protesters with a single brush based on a small minority of troublemakers.  Your arguments are in bad faith and dishonest.  Stop making up lies.  We get it, a small% of protesters were jerks, what's your point?  That this was everyone?  That's factually incorrect and you can't handle it.

I'm very curious how you calculated your ratio and what you consider to be an acceptable percentage of **** in a crowd before it becomes a problem?

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« Reply #97 on: February 01, 2022, 09:59:16 pm »
I'm very curious how you calculated your ratio and what you consider to be an acceptable percentage of **** in a crowd before it becomes a problem?
How did you calculate your ratio?

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« Reply #98 on: February 01, 2022, 10:02:29 pm »
Too good!  Ottawa mayor reportedly called tow trucks in Ottawa to start towing trucks and other vehicles of the convoy.  They refused!  😂

No justice, no peace!  But donít worry Branch Covidians, theyíll only be around for 14 days.  No longer than that.  Iím sure you can put up with a little disruption, no? 🤣

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« Reply #99 on: February 01, 2022, 10:30:53 pm »
The protests are working.  Quebec has decided against the vaccine tax.
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« Reply #100 on: February 01, 2022, 11:03:01 pm »
The protests are working.  Quebec has decided against the vaccine tax.

That was always doomed to fail. Their legal analysts told them they'd probably end up in court, and their political analysts told them that they'd pay for it at the polls. It was a bluff that got some more people to get vaccinated. The Quebec government doesn't give a **** about some angry anglos driving around Ottawa. If anything, they probably think it's hilarious.

Gyms are open in BC again. The #FluTrucksKlan didn't do that either.  The health order expired and the numbers don't warrant renewing it.

There was a bunch of polling last week showing that increasing numbers of people are "over it".  Those polls were conducted before the trucks even left for Ottawa. The dumbass rednecks in Ottawa are probably doing more harm than good for their cause.

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« Reply #101 on: February 01, 2022, 11:48:23 pm »
I'm very curious how you calculated your ratio and what you consider to be an acceptable percentage of **** in a crowd before it becomes a problem?

There's **** in every crowd, and every one of these mass-disturbance protests creates a problem for somebody.

I think there's a tendency for people to rationalize/excuse/minimize the problems created by protests they're sympathetic to, while harshly critical of protests they don't support.  The people blocking the Alberta border crossing at Coutts were probably mad as hell when the native pipeline protesters disrupted rail freight in 2020, for instance.

I think that all of these mass-disturbance protests do more harm than good to the cause they're intended to support.

I saw a clip from England a while back where environmental protesters had blocked off a roadway and there was a woman screaming for them to let her through so that she could get her mother to the hospital.  Unless you're completely unhinged, when you watch something like that your thoughts are "what if it was my mom who needed to get to the hospital and I couldn't get her there?"   "What if my kid was working at that Starbucks when those hooligans smashed it up?"  "What if it was my store that was looted or burned down?" "What if it was my kid who those anti-mask idiots were threatening?"

Normal sane people don't empathize with the cause warriors in these situations, no matter how noble the cause.  Normal sane people empathize with the people who are just trying to live their lives or do their jobs and find themselves in these situations through no fault of their own.


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« Reply #102 on: February 01, 2022, 11:58:37 pm »
Too good!  Ottawa mayor reportedly called tow trucks in Ottawa to start towing trucks and other vehicles of the convoy.  They refused!  😂

Jokes on them, tow trucks are trucks too!
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« Reply #103 on: February 01, 2022, 11:58:51 pm »
We're supposed to give a **** what MAGA Murphy Brown has to say?



If that guy is going to broad-brush people as "racists and misogynists" then it is entirely on-point to remind everyone who he is.

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« Reply #104 on: February 02, 2022, 09:26:07 am »
Nazi Germany was a fascist totalitarian dictatorship.  There was no way to change the anti-Jew laws or stop them from being thrown in the gas chambers.  We live in a democracy and we have a Charter of Rights.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion in a democracy.  Your opinion of what should be legal or not isn't any more important or righteous than anyone else's, that's decided by democracy. 

Floyd rioters didn't organize a giant protest rally in Washington DC or Minnesota like MLK did, they went straight to the riots and looting.

That's a lie. Protests in Minneapolis were peaceful until the point cops started firing rubber bullets and teargas into the crowd. Oh and don't forget one of the people seen instigating violence by smashing windows at an auto parts store was later identified as a white supremacist agent provocateur.

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I have more respect for civil disobedience like Rosa Parks than lashing out in anger via violence and destruction. I have a lot of respect for MLK and Gandhi.  Sometimes they broke the law but avoided actions with negative energy and violence and remained peaceful but got results.

They were two important figures that were part of much larger movements that encompassed a wide range of tactics, including violent resistance.