Author Topic: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)  (Read 32381 times)

0 Members and 7 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Queefer Sutherland

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10258
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1500 on: February 18, 2023, 12:36:46 pm »
To avoid any appearance of authoritarianism, we should have an independent commission look into it and determine whether the use of the emergencies act was justified under the circumstances. Oh wait...

You think it was independent commission?

The judge heading the inquiry was hand- selected by the Prime Minister.  He was a liberal party member and worked for the John Turner campaign after Pierre Trudeau resigned in the 80s.  He was hand- selected to be a judge by Paul Martin.

The Trudeau government investigated itself.  This is an affront to our democracy. The man has shown time and again he's a tyrant. Ask Jody Wilson Raybould.  Ask Stats Canada who attempted to force banks to secretly allow them to look at any Canadians bank account activity without their knowledge or consent.
"Nipples is one of the great minds of our time!" - Bubbermiley

Offline After 9 years of Trudeau Shady

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 9295
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1501 on: February 18, 2023, 01:17:01 pm »
You think it was independent commission?

The judge heading the inquiry was hand- selected by the Prime Minister.  He was a liberal party member and worked for the John Turner campaign after Pierre Trudeau resigned in the 80s.  He was hand- selected to be a judge by Paul Martin.

The Trudeau government investigated itself.  This is an affront to our democracy. The man has shown time and again he's a tyrant. Ask Jody Wilson Raybould.  Ask Stats Canada who attempted to force banks to secretly allow them to look at any Canadians bank account activity without their knowledge or consent.
Exactly.  It’s funny that the biggest so called proponents of “democracy” aren’t really proponents of real democracy, just the appearance of it.  They don’t like the sometimes messiness of real democracy.  That’s why they prefer the orderly and clean appearance of it.  Another example of it is when these same people lit they’re hair on fire because the vote for the speaker in the House of Representatives took a few days longer than it usually does.  A few days.  But that’s real democracy.  Real democracy isn’t always rubber stamping things.

guest18

  • Guest
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1502 on: February 18, 2023, 01:31:00 pm »
Again, if the commission said what you guys wanted to hear, you would have praised its good judgement. When they say what you don't want to hear, suddenly it was all corrupt from the start.

Offline waldo

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8857
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1503 on: February 18, 2023, 01:44:16 pm »
You think it was independent commission?

The judge heading the inquiry was hand- selected by the Prime Minister.  He was a liberal party member and worked for the John Turner campaign after Pierre Trudeau resigned in the 80s.  He was hand- selected to be a judge by Paul Martin.

does Nipples wear conspiracy well? LOL! Rouleau had a very short foray into politics... but c'mon, how many decades is required before conspiratorialNipples lowers his brazen innuendo charges?

surely Nipples, out of a 200 page report, you must be able to find something that rises above your perpetual conspiracy targeting - surely!

Offline waldo

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8857
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1504 on: February 18, 2023, 01:50:51 pm »
The Trudeau government investigated itself.  This is an affront to our democracy. The man has shown time and again he's a tyrant. Ask Jody Wilson Raybould.  Ask Stats Canada who attempted to force banks to secretly allow them to look at any Canadians bank account activity without their knowledge or consent.

Saint Jody? Really! Nipples is a stooge - don't be Nipples!

the Stats Can want was to 'secure' some representative randomized 500K Canadians banking transactional information... related data that would be secure & anonymized. Data necessary given the Harper Conservatives ended the mandatory long-form census.

Online Michael Hardner

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12532
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1505 on: February 18, 2023, 01:52:44 pm »
Does anyone think that the Coutts standoff and Ambassador Bridge protests didn't warrant a strong response?  An emergency response?

Offline Queefer Sutherland

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10258
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1506 on: February 18, 2023, 03:23:31 pm »
Saint Jody? Really! Nipples is a stooge - don't be Nipples!

the Stats Can want was to 'secure' some representative randomized 500K Canadians banking transactional information... related data that would be secure & anonymized. Data necessary given the Harper Conservatives ended the mandatory long-form census.

The Trudeau gov brought back the long form census for the 2016 census.  What are you talking about?

Now explain why Health Canada was secretly tracking the cell phone movements of every Canadian during the covid lockdowns to study compliance... and how the heck did they acquire that data... and why didn't they tell anyone, and why don't they believe in informed consent?

Let's see you dance, tyrant.  Dance for me waldo, go!
"Nipples is one of the great minds of our time!" - Bubbermiley

Offline Queefer Sutherland

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10258
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1507 on: February 18, 2023, 03:29:51 pm »
Again, if the commission said what you guys wanted to hear, you would have praised its good judgement. When they say what you don't want to hear, suddenly it was all corrupt from the start.

Did it have good judgement? Was it corrupt from the start?

A requirement for the emergencies act is that no other Canadian laws could deal with the situation in question.   Maybe they could have tried enforcing the law that states you can't park on the street illegally, park in border crossing bridges illegally, or disturb the peace at night (by honking horns).

When did they try to enforce those laws?  Who did they try to arrest?

If police didn't have access to tow trucks, maybe at most the emergencies act could have been used to get the military to lend some towing gear to the local police.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2023, 03:56:47 pm by Queefer Sutherland »
"Nipples is one of the great minds of our time!" - Bubbermiley

Offline After 9 years of Trudeau Shady

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 9295
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1508 on: February 18, 2023, 03:38:09 pm »
Did it have good judgement? Was it corrupt from the start?

A requirement for the emergencies act is that no other Canadian laws could deal with the situation in question.   Maybe they could have tried enforcing the law that states you can't park on the street illegally, park in border crossing blushes illegal, or disturb the peace at night (by honking horns).

When did they try to enforce those laws?  Who did they try to arrest?

If police didn't have access to tow trucks, maybe at most the emergencies act could have been used to get the military to lend some towing gear to the local police.
Exactly.  Existing laws were enforced to remove the protest on the ambassador bridge, without any need for the emergencies act.

guest18

  • Guest
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1509 on: February 18, 2023, 04:40:22 pm »
Why are you asking me? Why don't you read the report of the commission that suddenly became "corrupt" the moment you didn't like what it said.

Offline Queefer Sutherland

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10258
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1510 on: February 18, 2023, 04:41:46 pm »
Why are you asking me? Why don't you read the report of the commission that suddenly became "corrupt" the moment you didn't like what it said.

I'm asking you to think.
"Nipples is one of the great minds of our time!" - Bubbermiley

guest18

  • Guest
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1511 on: February 18, 2023, 05:10:57 pm »
No, you aren't. You're asking me to believe the whole commission was corrupt without any real evidence to support your theory.

Offline Queefer Sutherland

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10258
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1512 on: February 18, 2023, 05:17:53 pm »
No, you aren't. You're asking me to believe the whole commission was corrupt without any real evidence to support your theory.

No that's not what I asked.  I said  "Did it have good judgement? Was it corrupt from the start?"

You seem to be assuming it had good judgement and wasn't corrupt, without evidence or argument whatsoever, other than "it was independent".  Just because something is called "independent" doesn't mean it is.  Trudeau hand-picked the judge, and who was chosen by Paul Martin to be a judge in the first place and who formerly worked for the Liberal Party.  Sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

Have you considered the possibility that Trudeau picked a judge who was more likely to weigh in his favour?  Does this judge sound non-partisan and "independent" to you?  Does this judge owe any favours to the Liberal Party?  Does he think like a Liberal?
"Nipples is one of the great minds of our time!" - Bubbermiley

guest18

  • Guest
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1513 on: February 18, 2023, 05:20:50 pm »
I have questions too. If Trudeau is so omniscient in his corruption and can just orchestrate everybody to do what he wants, how come his government keeps getting hit with ethical violations?

Offline Queefer Sutherland

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10258
Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1514 on: February 18, 2023, 05:37:13 pm »
I have questions too. If Trudeau is so omniscient in his corruption and can just orchestrate everybody to do what he wants, how come his government keeps getting hit with ethical violations?

I never said he had total control over the accountability offices.  Ask yourself why the the government in power gets to pick the people who investigate them, including the ethics commissioner?

Also ask yourself why the Trudeau gov didn't enact the Emergencies Act during the indigenous railway blockades in 2020, and if you or Trudeau would have supported using the Emergencies Act if the convoy was made up of indigenous protestors against vaccine mandates?
"Nipples is one of the great minds of our time!" - Bubbermiley