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« Reply #1320 on: March 17, 2022, 10:50:34 am »
It's funny when the side that tears down statues calls other people the Taliban.  LOL.

The fact you can't tell the difference between tearing down statues glorifying dead racists and destroying ancient artifacts of historical and cultural significance says everything about you and the vat of human waste sloshing around inside your skull where your brain should be.
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« Reply #1321 on: March 17, 2022, 10:56:41 am »
The fact you can't tell the difference between tearing down statues glorifying dead racists and destroying ancient artifacts of historical and cultural significance says everything about you and the vat of human waste sloshing around inside your skull where your brain should be.
But many of the statues that were destroyed weren't of racists.  Regardless, even if that was the case, nobody has a right to destroy property that doesn't belong to them.  There's a process for removing statues.  You are the North American Taliban.

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« Reply #1322 on: March 17, 2022, 11:08:30 am »
But many of the statues that were destroyed weren't of racists.  Regardless, even if that was the case, nobody has a right to destroy property that doesn't belong to them.  There's a process for removing statues.  You are the North American Taliban.

Yes the problem was the Taliban didn't have the right permits. You have **** for brains.

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« Reply #1323 on: March 17, 2022, 11:21:52 am »
Yes the problem was the Taliban didn't have the right permits. You have **** for brains.
You're the one justifying Taliban-like behavior.

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« Reply #1324 on: March 17, 2022, 11:36:00 am »
You're the one justifying Taliban-like behavior.

Whatever you say brainlet.
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« Reply #1325 on: March 17, 2022, 11:55:35 am »
On the flag issue:

I donít really care myself.  They can wave it, burn it, sh!t on itÖ.   It wonít change how I feel about Canada or the flag. 

But I can see how people, who have a different sense of pride about the country than I do, could be upset by a bunch of idiots, who are vehemently un-Canadian in their attitudes and views, co-opting its use. 

Personally, I feel just as at home in my parentís birth country when I visit there as I do here.  I actually like a lot of things about it moreÖ.   So maybe thatís why I donít really feel the pride that some doÖ.  Or maybe Iím a sociopathÖ. I dunno.
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« Reply #1326 on: March 17, 2022, 11:14:15 pm »
I dunno.  kimmy's post is making me wonder what I think about the flag.

I don't like it being brandished as an aggressive 'f you' to ... I don't know ... doctors ?  Liberals ?  Easterners ?  People who can read ?

I think it represents our nation and all of its problems. 

Am I proud of it ?  I feel like I am part of it, and my feelings of love don't always include 'pride'.  Same as when someone I love does something that is not a good representation of their character.

And I don't think we should exactly look for 'logic' in these things, because we're talking about symbols that represent emotions.
Your post captures my sense of meh surrounding just about any symbol of nationalism. I suppose I might feel differently though if I saw Earth's flag flapping in the breeze at The Federation's Headquarters.
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« Reply #1327 on: March 18, 2022, 12:48:16 am »
This is completely inane. You don't have to have strong feelings or love for the flag and the nation it represents to understand the significance of its appropriation by right-wing nationalists.

Agree or disagree with their politics, or think some or many or all of them are complete idiots, but most right-wing folks who brandish themselves in a national flag believe in their hearts that they are patriots and are fighting for their rights as citizens.  That's all it means.  Its weird that this offends anyone.  It shows a huge lack of empathy, and is smug and condescending.  We might think the people we disagree with are wrong but most usually don't have evil intent.

This is just people saying "eww how dare you wave the flag while advocating these silly disgusting beliefs I don't want my flag to be associated with".  Most anti-mandate people aren't evil, they just don't want the government to coerce them into having a medical procedure.  Some of them are also just dumb about a lot of stuff, which is a reason to shake your head but not a reason to hate them.
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Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
« Reply #1328 on: March 18, 2022, 07:29:23 am »


This is just people saying "eww how dare you wave the flag while advocating these silly disgusting beliefs I don't want my flag to be associated with".  Most anti-mandate people aren't evil, they just don't want the government to coerce them into having a medical procedure.  Some of them are also just dumb about a lot of stuff, which is a reason to shake your head but not a reason to hate them.

I don't hate them either, and agree that most of them are gullible and misled.

But.

A flag represents a country, including it's people.  Canada's people are not a bunch of anti-science idiots, who accuse our government of being some kind of authoritarian/fascist/communist wannabe.  The people who do that, do not have the right to claim they are patriots as they spew hatred for the rest of us and for Canadian systems and institutions.  Wrapping themselves in the flag does not make them patriots.  They demean our flag and our country; they do not protect, enhance or honor it.   

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« Reply #1329 on: March 18, 2022, 07:47:31 am »
People who feel the need to declare themselves patriots remind me of people who feel the need to declare themselves straight. Seems to be compensation for a feeling they aren't.
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« Reply #1330 on: March 18, 2022, 08:00:20 am »
People who feel the need to declare themselves patriots remind me of people who feel the need to declare themselves straight. Seems to be compensation for a feeling they aren't.
Or vegetarian.  The ongoing joke is how can you tell if somebody is vegan or vegetarian?  Donít worry theyíll tell you! 😂
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« Reply #1331 on: March 18, 2022, 09:31:37 am »
Agree or disagree with their politics, or think some or many or all of them are complete idiots, but most right-wing folks who brandish themselves in a national flag believe in their hearts that they are patriots and are fighting for their rights as citizens.  That's all it means.  Its weird that this offends anyone. It shows a huge lack of empathy, and is smug and condescending.  We might think the people we disagree with are wrong but most usually don't have evil intent.

Yeah I'm not sure why you always want to give these ding-dongs the benefit of the doubt. I don't disagree that these people think they are patriots, but I think they have a fundamentally different idea of what the means, what the nation is about and who it belongs to than I do.

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This is just people saying "eww how dare you wave the flag while advocating these silly disgusting beliefs I don't want my flag to be associated with".  Most anti-mandate people aren't evil, they just don't want the government to coerce them into having a medical procedure.  Some of them are also just dumb about a lot of stuff, which is a reason to shake your head but not a reason to hate them.

I'm willing to bet I've had a lot more first hand exposure to these sorts than you and trust me, dumb doesn't begin to cover it. And why shouldn't i hate people who hate people like me?
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« Reply #1332 on: March 18, 2022, 09:44:05 am »
I don't think any progress can be made by hating them, but making fun of them to the point of humiliation might work. It's more fun too.
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« Reply #1333 on: March 18, 2022, 07:40:05 pm »
I don't hate them either, and agree that most of them are gullible and misled.

But.

A flag represents a country, including it's people.  Canada's people are not a bunch of anti-science idiots, who accuse our government of being some kind of authoritarian/fascist/communist wannabe.  The people who do that, do not have the right to claim they are patriots as they spew hatred for the rest of us and for Canadian systems and institutions.  Wrapping themselves in the flag does not make them patriots.  They demean our flag and our country; they do not protect, enhance or honor it.

Imagine if the government was trying to make you have a medical procedure that you didn't want to take.  You'd probably think this was against your fundamental rights as a Canadian and that your government was a bunch of tyrants.  I have no idea where the "spew hatred for you" and "demean our flag and country" comes from.

I don't agree at all with parking your truck in the middle of a public street illegally, but most of the protestors weren't doing that either.
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« Reply #1334 on: March 18, 2022, 08:23:58 pm »
Imagine if the government was trying to make you have a medical procedure that you didn't want to take.  You'd probably think this was against your fundamental rights as a Canadian and that your government was a bunch of tyrants.  I have no idea where the "spew hatred for you" and "demean our flag and country" comes from.

I don't agree at all with parking your truck in the middle of a public street illegally, but most of the protestors weren't doing that either.

No one had to get jabbed if they didnít want to.  Stop being so dramatic.
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