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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #2940 on: December 08, 2022, 12:24:45 pm »
Logic has no place in the Trudeau regime.  Itís all about feelings.

It's all a war on logic, with all parties participating

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« Reply #2941 on: December 08, 2022, 12:40:32 pm »
clearly you aren't aware of what the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women is about! Certainly there is a commemorative tie to the …cole Polytechnique mass shooting... but the day is much broader intending to remember those who have experienced or died from gender-based violence. What agenda is being, as you say, sold in regards the statements related to gender based violence, MMIWG, etc.?

Still about selling his agenda.

"his agenda"... that you refuse to define - is there a problem, for YOU, hey?

We have lots of problems. Violence against women is an issue but other shootings donít get this sales pitch. In reality men are almost three times more likeLy to die from guns than women.

"sales pitch" - how sad for YOU! With a focus on gun-control measures, instead of properly placing your reams of related posts in the appropriate gunz thread... you opted to hijack this one... and you continue to focus on guns with this your latest post. How telling that you feel it appropriate... needed... to include a reference to, as you say, "men are almost three times more likely to die from guns than women"!

member wilber, you clearly struggle with understanding what PM Trudeau's statement encompassed! Again:
there is an annual commemoration for the …cole Polytechnique mass shooting... in 1991 the anniversary of the mass shooting was proclaimed, National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women. The PM Trudeau statement, of course, mentions/leads with references to this... and extends to also draw attention to:
- the 16 Days of Activism against Gender Based Violence
- the relatively recent killing of 4 Indigenous women in Manitoba
- the MMIWG National Action Plan and the related Federal Pathway as the Government of Canada's contribution to the National Action Plan
- the Government of Canada's Gender-Based Violence Strategy and related Action Plan to end gender based violence
- as the second last short paragraph in the statement, in relation to helping to protect women/girls, mention is made of gun control measures, vis-a-vis Bill C-21



member wilber, please refocus your energy/attention... in an appropriate thread - thanks in advance!

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« Reply #2942 on: December 08, 2022, 12:53:09 pm »
We need an impeachment process in Canada.

We have no confidence votes.  And this is a minority gov
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« Reply #2943 on: December 08, 2022, 12:55:52 pm »
Shocking.  Not

other than CPC/PeePee et al who openly stated they wouldn't provide pandemic financial relief to impacted individuals/businesses, there is considerable understanding & agreement that a quick payout relief approach was necessary... while accepting to the fact that there 'might be' ineligible/over payments made. The AG has offered the federal government, "a set of recommendations to improve the collection of over payments and to fix data gaps relating to businesses. Government organizations reviewed in the audit say they have accepted the recommendations".

Quote from: CPC leader Pierre Poilievre when asked about special federal measures to deal with COVID-19
You might want to address it through big fat government programs, weíre Conservatives so we donít believe in that.

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« Reply #2944 on: December 08, 2022, 01:02:52 pm »
We have no confidence votes.  And this is a minority gov

in a parliamentary democracy based on the Westminster system:
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a confidence-and-supply agreement is one whereby a party or independent members of parliament will support the government in motions of confidence and appropriation or budget (supply) votes, by either voting in favour or abstaining. However, parties and independent members normally retain the right to otherwise vote in favour of their own policies or on conscience on legislative bills.

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« Reply #2945 on: December 08, 2022, 01:18:09 pm »
:D
We have lots of problems. Violence against women is an issue but other shootings donít get this sales pitch. In reality men are almost three times more likeLy to die from guns than women.

Because of suicide, which is a different issue.

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« Reply #2946 on: December 08, 2022, 02:21:12 pm »
"his agenda"... that you refuse to define - is there a problem, for YOU, hey?

"sales pitch" - how sad for YOU! With a focus on gun-control measures, instead of properly placing your reams of related posts in the appropriate gunz thread... you opted to hijack this one... and you continue to focus on guns with this your latest post. How telling that you feel it appropriate... needed... to include a reference to, as you say, "men are almost three times more likely to die from guns than women"!

member wilber, you clearly struggle with understanding what PM Trudeau's statement encompassed! Again:


member wilber, please refocus your energy/attention... in an appropriate thread - thanks in advance!

It is still being used to sell a government agenda.
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« Reply #2947 on: December 08, 2022, 02:34:19 pm »
"his agenda"... that you refuse to define - is there a problem, for YOU, hey?

"sales pitch" - how sad for YOU! With a focus on gun-control measures, instead of properly placing your reams of related posts in the appropriate gunz thread... you opted to hijack this one... and you continue to focus on guns with this your latest post. How telling that you feel it appropriate... needed... to include a reference to, as you say, "men are almost three times more likely to die from guns than women"!

member wilber, you clearly struggle with understanding what PM Trudeau's statement encompassed! Again:


member wilber, please refocus your energy/attention... in an appropriate thread - thanks in advance!
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« Reply #2948 on: December 08, 2022, 03:35:01 pm »
Not so Breaking news:  Trudeau gov only cares about national security when the media finds out then people (who actually care) complain.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9335471/rcmp-china-contract-sinclair-norsat-hytera/
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« Reply #2949 on: December 08, 2022, 05:47:33 pm »
Not so Breaking news:  Trudeau gov only cares about national security when the media finds out then people (who actually care) complain.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9335471/rcmp-china-contract-sinclair-norsat-hytera/
Itís sad that it takes public outcry for the Trudeau regime to do the right thing.

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« Reply #2950 on: December 08, 2022, 09:27:47 pm »
The Trudeau Brand,  circa 2012:
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"The long-gun registry, as it was, was a failure and I'm not going to resuscitate that," Trudeau said while visiting the DART Aerospace plant in Hawkesbury.
"We will continue to look at ways of keeping our cities safe and making sure that we do address the concerns around domestic violence that happen right across the country, in rural as well as urban areas in which, unfortunately, guns do play a role."
"But there are better ways of keeping us safe than that registry which is, has been removed," Trudeau said.
"I grew up with long guns, rifles and shotguns," explained the son of former prime minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau.
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Trudeau went on to say, "I was raised with an appreciation and an understanding of how important in rural areas and right across the country gun ownership is as a part of the culture of Canada. I do not feel that there's any huge contradiction between keeping our cities safe from gun violence and gangs, and allowing this important facet of Canadian identity which is having a gun."
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Trudeau blamed not only the Conservatives but also previous governments for polarizing the gun debate.
"We have a government, or successive governments, that have managed to polarize the conversations around gun ownership to create games in electoral ways ó when you don't have to have a conflict," the MP from Quebec said.
"There is no concept, no idea that gun ownership is ever going to be under attack for law-abiding hunters and farmers across this country. But we need to keep the cities safe. And I don't see that that's an unsolvable solution," Trudeau said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-calls-long-gun-registry-a-failure-1.1278739

The Trudeau Brand,  circa 2022:
"LOL IDGAF, f*ck those guys they never vote Liberal anyway LOL"


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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #2951 on: December 08, 2022, 09:49:52 pm »
:D
We have lots of problems. Violence against women is an issue but other shootings donít get this sales pitch. In reality men are almost three times more likeLy to die from guns than women.

Even disregarding suicides (as BD pointed out), another main reason why more men die from gun violence is that men are out doing man type stuff.  What percentage of gun homicides in Canada are gang type stuff?  And what percentage of gang people are men?  Oh yeah.

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« Reply #2952 on: December 08, 2022, 10:00:38 pm »
To vote Liberal. The Liberal party doesnít care about them because theyíll never vote for them and the Conservatives donít care because they always will.

So it turns out that while the Liberals don't give a crap about Canada outside of the 3 big cities, their NDP and BQ allies are pretty dependent on rural ridings for continued relevance.

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« Reply #2953 on: December 08, 2022, 10:20:13 pm »
The issue isn't his position, it's his endorsement of the CCFR which was recently mocking the …cole Polytechnique shooting by using POLY as a promo code for their website. Also, him claiming to have never heard of the shooting doesn't pass the smell test since he literally lived in Montreal for 15 years.

Price himself corrected the team's PR flak and said that yes, he did know about the Ecole Polytechnique massacre. Price also pointed out that he isn't the one who scheduled the hearings on the Bill C-21 amendments.  If speaking out against C-21 at this time is triggering for Polytechnique survivors, maybe the government should have scheduled these hearings sooner. I have little doubt that the Liberals planned it this way, so that they could use the Dec 6 anniversary as a stick with which to attack critics of the bill (as Marco Moronico did earlier this week.)

In regard to the CCFR promo code, it needs to be pointed out that "POLY" isn't a reference to the Polytechnique massacre, it's a reference to the PolySeSouvient anti-gun activist group led by Nathalie Provost, a survivor of the massacre. PolySeSouvient have been dedicated antagonists of gun-owners in general and CCFR in particular for many years. (PolySeSouvient also seem to be the only "experts" the Liberals actually consulted in drafting C-21.)

What happened to Provost and her peers was horrific beyond imagination, but that doesn't make PolySeSouvient exempt from criticism or disagreement.   If they didn't want the memory of the victims of Dec 6. 1989 to be drawn into politics and controversy, maybe they should have named their political activist group something else.

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« Reply #2954 on: December 08, 2022, 11:45:12 pm »

In regard to the CCFR promo code, it needs to be pointed out that "POLY" isn't a reference to the Polytechnique massacre, it's a reference to the PolySeSouvient anti-gun activist group led by Nathalie Provost, a survivor of the massacre. PolySeSouvient have been dedicated antagonists of gun-owners in general and CCFR in particular for many years. (PolySeSouvient also seem to be the only "experts" the Liberals actually consulted in drafting C-21.)

What happened to Provost and her peers was horrific beyond imagination, but that doesn't make PolySeSouvient exempt from criticism or disagreement.   If they didn't want the memory of the victims of Dec 6. 1989 to be drawn into politics and controversy, maybe they should have named their political activist group something else.

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Lol Jesus Christ listen to yourself here.

First: saying "acshually the promo code wasn't a reference to the massacre but to the group named after the massacre started by survivors of the massacre and the families of the victims" is a distinction without a difference.

Second: nothing wrong with criticizing or disagreeing with a political lobby group, but that's not the issue. The issue is the President's Choice-brand NRA using the group's name (which again is a direct reference to the massacre) to sell their shitty merch to divorced guys.
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