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« Reply #2835 on: November 19, 2022, 12:10:01 pm »
It's hilarious that Conservatives, who locked Canada into a bad trade deal with China for over 30 years, inexplicably accuse the Liberals of sucking up to China (usually as a lame attempt to deflect from their own sucking up to Russia)...and then they don't hesitate to suck up to China when the Liberals stand up for Canadian freedom and transparency.

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« Reply #2836 on: November 19, 2022, 12:43:38 pm »
hey Shady, I trust your boy Putin is ok with you steppin' out on him to suck up to Xi, hey! Of course you're just parroting ConMedia here... clearly one needs to get out of the ConMedia bubble to realize an honest/representative account of what transpired.

waldo reference point: Xi was grandstanding because details of a prior meeting/discussion were made public - as in the PMO standard operating procedure to provide media a Readout of meetings between the Prime Minister and 'others'. So... out of the ConMedia bubble: China exposed as world bully at G-20 summit

National Observer - Max Fawcett: Conservative criticism of Trudeau after Xi scolding reveals deeper ties to party than country
Max who? 😂
Regardless, Trudeau should have had the balls to stand up for himself and the country.  He’s a spineless loser, and when confronted directly, folds like a cheap suit.  Similar to the empty suit that he is.  How about taking the opportunity to point out that unlike China, Canada actually has a free press to complain about?  It’s not hard.  He’s tougher on truckers! 😂

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« Reply #2837 on: November 19, 2022, 12:45:15 pm »
It's hilarious that Conservatives, who locked Canada into a bad trade deal with China for over 30 years, inexplicably accuse the Liberals of sucking up to China (usually as a lame attempt to deflect from their own sucking up to Russia)...and then they don't hesitate to suck up to China when the Liberals stand up for Canadian freedom and transparency.
Once again your reading comprehension fails you.  The issue isn’t sucking up to China in this instance, it’s standing up for yourself and the country.  Trudeau could crap in a box for you and you’d say it’s Christmas.

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« Reply #2838 on: November 19, 2022, 01:19:05 pm »
Regardless, Trudeau should have had the balls to stand up for himself and the country.

the waldo has linked to 2 independent sources that show you're fullOfShyte... 3 including a referenced source within one of the cited articles. Where are you getting your misinforming interpretation from - c'mon, cite something... anything. Let's see where you get your weaselly assessments from, hey!

point in fact the, as you say, "standing up for" was done in the initial meeting where PM Trudeau raised concerns over China's interference in Canada's 2019 elections - you know, the key facet Xi was so concerned about being 'leaked' to the press! Clearly your 4th grade comprehension constraint has failed you again!

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As the Toronto Star’s Susan Delacourt noted, “A close watch of the video shows Trudeau nodding politely until he realizes through the translator that he’s getting a scolding. The prime minister then fixes his gaze on Xi directly and moves closer to the Chinese leader — something Trudeau does often when he’s confronted or challenged.” As Delacourt wrote, Trudeau famously did that during his first official visit with U.S. President Donald Trump in February 2017.

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« Reply #2839 on: November 19, 2022, 01:53:24 pm »
As the Toronto Star’s Susan Delacourt noted, “A close watch of the video shows Trudeau nodding politely until he realizes through the translator that he’s getting a scolding. The prime minister then fixes his gaze on Xi directly and moves closer to the Chinese leader — something Trudeau does often when he’s confronted or challenged.” As Delacourt wrote, Trudeau famously did that during his first official visit with U.S. President Donald Trump in February 2017.

Somebody also noted that Xi wouldn't make eye contact with Trudeau during the encounter.  He was looking into Trudeau's necktie, because Trudeau is so much taller than him.  Apparently in their culture, looking up at Trudeau would have been seen as a sign of weakness and not played well with Chinese audiences. So he spoke moistly at Trudeau's necktie.

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« Reply #2840 on: November 19, 2022, 01:57:17 pm »
I do believe we need to find out what's going on with the 11 politicians believed to have been aided by China in the past election.  That's kind of a big deal.   

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« Reply #2841 on: November 19, 2022, 02:24:42 pm »
I do believe we need to find out what's going on with the 11 politicians believed to have been aided by China in the past election.  That's kind of a big deal.   

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Being a minority government, this is the type of situation where the other parties could force the government to do some explaining.  But I don’t think the Cons/NDP/Bloc could work together on anything.

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« Reply #2842 on: November 19, 2022, 02:57:14 pm »
Being a minority government, this is the type of situation where the other parties could force the government to do some explaining.  But I don’t think the Cons/NDP/Bloc could work together on anything.

They've worked together before on motions relating to accountability.

On this issue, I would not assume that any party would be exempt from interference; China would probably hedge their bets by investing in MPs from all the parties (except the Greens, because why throw their money away.)

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« Reply #2843 on: November 19, 2022, 03:02:20 pm »
My good Chinese friend, Ching-Chong Ding-Dong, is furious about the Chinese democratic interference.
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« Reply #2844 on: November 20, 2022, 12:19:18 pm »
My good Chinese friend, Ching-Chong Ding-Dong, is furious about the Chinese democratic interference.

hey Nipples, you should preface a racist post with a caveat stating that, as you claim, you're black... cause then its not racist, amirite?
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« Reply #2845 on: November 20, 2022, 12:27:41 pm »
Waldo with the win.

Graham pretends to walk the line as a centrist poster, not part of either camp, but ends up with Elon like schoolboy stink on many posts. It makes one regret taking him seriously.
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« Reply #2846 on: November 20, 2022, 01:17:31 pm »
Wow, you guys really don’t understand satire huh?   Or the fact that you’re being mocked.

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« Reply #2847 on: November 20, 2022, 01:18:04 pm »
The world is laughing at him.


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« Reply #2848 on: November 20, 2022, 01:28:49 pm »
The world is laughing at him.

Only by those who are terribly sad he made them look like clowns for saying he was China's b!tch.

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« Reply #2849 on: November 20, 2022, 01:52:12 pm »
The world is laughing at him.

oh my! Shady opens the curtain ever so slightly... posting a vid from some obscure, inane, know-nothing - a vid with, wait for it... wait for it... 12K views! LOL!


waldo reference point: Xi was grandstanding because details of a prior meeting/discussion were made public - as in the PMO standard operating procedure to provide media a Readout of meetings between the Prime Minister and 'others'. So... out of the ConMedia bubble: China exposed as world bully at G-20 summit
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First, there was the experience of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Wednesday. Trudeau was very publicly dressed down by Xi in front of a gaggle of Canadian journalists. Trudeau's outrageous crime? He had used a Tuesday meeting with the all-powerful Chinese leader to complain about China's interference in Canada's 2019 elections, and he had made his displeasure known publicly. Xi didn't like that the media found out about this.

"Everything we discussed was then leaked to the [newspapers]. That's not appropriate," Xi said. He called for Trudeau's "sincerity" before the Canadian leader politely interjected to defend himself. Xi then interrupted Trudeau to say, "Let's create the conditions first." Shaking hands, Xi promptly walked off.

Xi in translation: If you want trade and cooperation, you had better stop resisting my national security policies, even when they directly affect Canadian interests. Be more like our German puppets and less like our American rivals.

National Observer - Max Fawcett: Conservative criticism of Trudeau after Xi scolding reveals deeper ties to party than country
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ou might think the Canadians who define themselves by their steadfast dedication to liberty and free markets would be rallying, however reluctantly, behind their democratically elected leader rather than a foreign dictator.
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Until Canada’s conservative movement is able to kick its addiction to hating Justin Trudeau, those important conversations are going to be difficult to have.

Conservatives are free, of course, to disagree with the government, to criticize its policies and dislike its personnel, just as Liberals and New Democrats will be when the tables are eventually turned. In some respects, that’s quite literally their job. But when the conflict is between liberal democracy and authoritarian dictatorship, we should all be able to rally behind the prime minister — no matter what his or her name might be.

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As the Toronto Star’s Susan Delacourt noted, “A close watch of the video shows Trudeau nodding politely until he realizes through the translator that he’s getting a scolding. The prime minister then fixes his gaze on Xi directly and moves closer to the Chinese leader — something Trudeau does often when he’s confronted or challenged.” As Delacourt wrote, Trudeau famously did that during his first official visit with U.S. President Donald Trump in February 2017.