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« Reply #3285 on: March 27, 2023, 12:59:37 pm »
Imagine the cognitive dissonance required to know that you rank last in the G7 in living units per thousand citizens, and to at the same time, forge polices that put you #1 in the G7 in immigration.  Talk about not giving a sh*t about people.  Biggest piece of sh*t weíve ever had as a PM.  Hence he will be forever known as Turdeau. 💩

I agree the government should be building more affordable housing in this country, it is too important to be left to the private sector. Thank you Comrade Shady!
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« Reply #3286 on: March 27, 2023, 01:43:29 pm »
Fortunately the government has addressed this "tyranny" and, to shady's relief, has a plan.
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2023/03/17/building-more-homes-faster
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« Reply #3287 on: March 27, 2023, 01:49:18 pm »
Fortunately the government has addressed this "tyranny" and, to shady's relief, has a plan.
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2023/03/17/building-more-homes-faster

It's a start but there's really not much the federal government can do to address the supply side of the equation.

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« Reply #3288 on: March 27, 2023, 01:58:23 pm »
Sure they can. After WWII, the federal government created CMHC and initiated the building of thousands of small "milk carton" houses throughout the country to house returning vets. My dad got one for, I believe, about $6000.
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2021/06/13/canada-spent-massive-amounts-to-help-second-world-war-veterans-find-affordable-housing-doing-the-same-post-covid-19-for-front-line-workers-would-benefit-the-whole-city.html
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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #3289 on: March 27, 2023, 02:27:35 pm »
Sure they can. After WWII, the federal government created CMHC and initiated the building of thousands of small "milk carton" houses throughout the country to house returning vets. My dad got one for, I believe, about $6000.
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2021/06/13/canada-spent-massive-amounts-to-help-second-world-war-veterans-find-affordable-housing-doing-the-same-post-covid-19-for-front-line-workers-would-benefit-the-whole-city.html

I don't think the circumstances are comparable. Like would the CMHC be able to override local zoning laws?

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« Reply #3290 on: March 27, 2023, 02:30:58 pm »
In some cities, like Toronto and Vancouver, I think the crisis is presently worse than it was back then---particularly among the people who have to work in those cities, serving the people who can afford to live there. In terms of zoning laws, I dunno. Were they allowed to back then? If so, why not now?
"I have worked hard to represent people of all backgrounds and I have always done so in a spirit of tolerance. My reference to the term 'tar baby' was a common reference that refers to issues that stick to one." - Pierre Poilievre

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« Reply #3291 on: March 27, 2023, 05:28:47 pm »
In some cities, like Toronto and Vancouver, I think the crisis is presently worse than it was back then---particularly among the people who have to work in those cities, serving the people who can afford to live there. In terms of zoning laws, I dunno. Were they allowed to back then? If so, why not now?

I guess it depends on how the program works, like is it loans to develop housing or is the government actually building the things?

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« Reply #3292 on: March 27, 2023, 05:50:29 pm »
The federal government created Wartime Housing Ltd, a Crown corporation that built thousands of small houses across the country. They responded to the housing crisis by building houses that they rented to servicemen and, when they eventually privatized the program, they used CMHC to get them mortgages. The market today isn't interested in small houses for low-income people and has failed miserably at providing it. But there's already a precedent in solving this problem and it worked.
"I have worked hard to represent people of all backgrounds and I have always done so in a spirit of tolerance. My reference to the term 'tar baby' was a common reference that refers to issues that stick to one." - Pierre Poilievre

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #3293 on: March 27, 2023, 06:59:30 pm »
See, what my libtard friends of the forum need to do, is make themselves more familiar with economic concepts such as supply and demand, and especially the concept of scarcity.

And once youíve made yourselves more familiar with them, please one of you educate our piece of sh*t brain dead PM.  Who doesnít know his a$$ from a hole in the ground.  Who hasnít come up with a sound housing policy in 8 years.
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« Reply #3294 on: March 28, 2023, 11:17:13 am »
How about you put an end to policies that are creating the problem? 

policies? - do tell; do tell... sure you can! And just what is Poilievre/CPC proposing?

c'mon Shady! You mentioned immigration... you were on a roll! But, but, surely you have more - notwithstanding you said bupkis about what PeePee/CPC would do. Still waiting, Shady - still waiting

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« Reply #3295 on: March 28, 2023, 11:29:36 am »
Canada has the lowest number of housing units per thousand residents of any G7 country. The number of housing units began to drop precipitously each year starting in 2016.  2016 is significant because thatís when many of the Trudeau policies began to alter the market.

"many of the Trudeau policies"... how much is a many, hey! You were asked to name them. Still waiting, Shady - still waiting


Imagine the cognitive dissonance required to know that you rank last in the G7 in living units per thousand citizens...

c'mon waldo, canya add any perspective? Well, it seems the ShadyOne has been on a tear posting many times over about this 'last in G7 units per thousand'. Ya, ya, Canada is at 424... the U.S. is at 427! LOL! Hey waldo, is that a big difference?

in any case, there are so many ways that comparing the factors impacting on housing in smallish Euro/Asian countries to the U.S., to Canada is very questionable! Notwithstanding, of course, the ShadyOne simplistically targets the federal government, while ignoring the fact there are 3 levels of government, each significantly impacting upon housing in Canada - municipal, provincial and federal. Now just how did the ShadyOne miss this lil' nugget?

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« Reply #3296 on: March 28, 2023, 12:04:54 pm »
Consider how sociopathic Trudeau is by them timing the announcement and imposition of the Roxham Rd closure with the day Biden arrived just for PR & political gain.

These are people's lives, not your campaign folder.  How long were they sitting on that agreement?

Just like Roxham Rd closing the night of Biden's speech in Parliament.  Wow they must have hammered that deal out on the flight from DC!

Nipples, don't forget the mega-influence Poilievre had in this - geezaz, the guy has been crowing about it for days now!

 

wait, what? The agreement has been signed for over a year! Yup, that's right Nipples... they sat on it for a year just to allow a joint/signed notification to be released by PM Trudeau/Pres Biden. LOL! But there's more, right waldo? Yessiree: the U.S. was driving the deployment/notification date as it has/had significant regulatory work needed, involving many U.S. Departments, to ensure the related law would stand challenges. More pointedly, there was a want to ensure that once announced, there wasn't a large rush of immigrants at the border before regulatory and required infrastructure was in place.

hey waldo, does this bust Poilievre's claim that PM Trudeau/Pres. Biden succumbed to his 'in 30 days' pressure! Oh my!

bring it home, Poilievre! Bring it home!

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #3297 on: March 28, 2023, 10:43:48 pm »
According to Scotia Bank:

Canada has the lowest number of housing units per thousand residents of any G7 country.
The number of housing units began to drop precipitously each year starting in 2016.  2016 is significant because thatís when many of the Trudeau policies began to alter the market.

How long has house building been a federal responsibility?

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #3298 on: March 29, 2023, 09:37:35 am »
How long has house building been a federal responsibility?
It's not.  It's also not a federal responsibility in the other G7 countries, but they're doing much better.  Regardless, any government that actually cared about it's citizens, would acknowledge reality, and either not pursue policies that make the situation worse, or slow down, even just temporarily, the amount of new citizens it brings into the country.  How does being last in the G7 in living units per 1000 residents, while at the same time being first in the G7 in bringing in new residents make any sense, when housing is so scarce?  Any logical government that gave a sh*t would act accordingly.  Not this sh*tty one though.

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #3299 on: March 29, 2023, 10:06:53 am »
How long has house building been a federal responsibility?
It's not.  It's also not a federal responsibility in the other G7 countries, but they're doing much better.  Regardless, any government that actually cared about it's citizens, would acknowledge reality, and either not pursue policies that make the situation worse, or slow down, even just temporarily, the amount of new citizens it brings into the country.  How does being last in the G7 in living units per 1000 residents, while at the same time being first in the G7 in bringing in new residents make any sense, when housing is so scarce?  Any logical government that gave a sh*t would act accordingly.  Not this sh*tty one though.

"many of the Trudeau policies"... how much is a many, hey! You were asked to name them. Still waiting, Shady - still waiting


well, it seems the ShadyOne has been on a tear posting many times over about this 'last in G7 units per thousand'. Ya, ya, Canada is at 424... the U.S. is at 427! LOL! Hey waldo, is that a big difference?

in any case, there are so many ways that comparing the factors impacting on housing in smallish Euro/Asian countries to the U.S., to Canada is very questionable! Notwithstanding, of course, the ShadyOne simplistically targets the federal government, while ignoring the fact there are 3 levels of government, each significantly impacting upon housing in Canada - municipal, provincial and federal. Now just how did the ShadyOne miss this lil' nugget?