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Offline Omni

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2019, 04:32:30 pm »
guys, guys... the baseless innuendo of your own personal brands has no place in this thread! Apologies to Prof. Strangelove for their partisan hijinks...

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2019, 05:42:37 pm »
Hey guys, don't do this guy's homework for him/her.
"The economy has been relatively strong but Trudeau has chosen to run deficits year after year & has said will continue to do so well into the future.  This means we'll be in a worse & more vulnerable financial position when a recession hits when we HAVE to run deficits again." - Me, Oct. 3, 2019

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2019, 07:46:38 pm »
I don’t think it is a stupid question, of course Trudeau is a brand.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2019, 08:37:39 pm »
I don't think Trudeau is obsessed with being the "good guy", he's obsessed with being seen as the "good guy".  He's addicted to getting lots of positive attention from others.  He was a teacher so he likes being in front of people having everyone paying attention to him & how wonderful he thinks he is, he studied drama and has done some acting & loves the attention, and PM is the role of a lifetime.  He's been swooned over since birth, he would have been the cute popular famous kid growing up in school.

He loves women and women love him...and he loves women loving him.  His #1 political priority has been "saving" women from the evils of oppression, like a white knight to the rescue & the praise of lovely ladies swooning for him even more for it.  He loves being the handsome dreamboat on the cover of magazines etc.  He craves to be as adored as his father was.

He loves doing good deeds for all sorts of victimized groups & let's as many people as possible know about it, & he craves being seen as the "good guy" on the international stage.  He loves all the positive attention being PM gives him, so he can be Canada's hero.  I think his wife is the same, they're made for each other.

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"The economy has been relatively strong but Trudeau has chosen to run deficits year after year & has said will continue to do so well into the future.  This means we'll be in a worse & more vulnerable financial position when a recession hits when we HAVE to run deficits again." - Me, Oct. 3, 2019

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2019, 09:36:00 pm »
He is an auto tuned pop song.

Empty, boring, meaningless, repetitive, skin deep, exactly the sort of inoffensive pap that appeals to the very average.  Throw in some phony liberal niceness and spread some borrowed money around, and you have a winner.

His brand is being all things to all people while not actually being anything to anyone, that way he can appeal to the majority who aren't smart enough to know better.

Of course others vote liberal because they pay best, but that's nothing new.


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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2019, 09:42:13 pm »
He is an auto tuned pop song.

Empty, boring, meaningless, repetitive, skin deep, exactly the sort of inoffensive pap that appeals to the very average.  Throw in some phony liberal niceness and spread some borrowed money around, and you have a winner.

His brand is being all things to all people while not actually being anything to anyone, that way he can appeal to the majority who aren't smart enough to know better.

Of course others vote liberal because they pay best, but that's nothing new.

Who have ya got to run against him, speaking of "Empty, boring, meaningless, repetitive, skin deep, exactly the sort of inoffensive pap that appeals to the very average" Oh yeah, Andrew Scheer. JT gets another majority.

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2019, 11:20:41 am »
[...] business as usual has served us well for a long time.

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It's served us all well, but some of us a hell of a lot more well than others.

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2019, 12:16:42 pm »
It's served us all well, but some of us a hell of a lot more well than others.

Maybe it's served us well in some areas, but not in others not enough.

"Trudeau" is a brand, both domestic & international, and most of that is due to Pierre Elliott.  Justin wouldn't have been elected Liberal leader nor PM without the strong branding of his father backing him.  It's like Dubya Bush & Jeb running off their father's coattails, or Hillary off Bill's, or Doug Ford off Rob.  Now we have Trump in the White House & Oprah possibly looking for a crack at the most powerful job in the world...each without even a day of political experience  Yup it's all about the celeb status & their star power, not necessarily the content of their ideas.

We're led by a bunch of elites, most of whom have fat pocketbooks and & grew up never having to worry about paying their bills.  Apparently we once took power away from the royalty and live in a "democracy" of the people, what a joke.  Neo-Royals lets call them.
"The economy has been relatively strong but Trudeau has chosen to run deficits year after year & has said will continue to do so well into the future.  This means we'll be in a worse & more vulnerable financial position when a recession hits when we HAVE to run deficits again." - Me, Oct. 3, 2019

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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2019, 08:50:31 pm »
Hey, did you see all of the substance, all of that depth, all of that brand today when Trudeau was asked about his ambassadors comment to a Chinese media only news conference?  I suppose Mr. Deep™ hadn't had yet received his answers from the actual PM.  He wasn't sure which brand he was supposed to be today, which way was the wind blowing anyway?

Aside from that what a shit show these guys are, that's at least twice now they have had press conferences without inviting our media, o but it was Harper that was the evil, secretive one.  But lots of people are seemingly not only willing, but damned happy to accept this behavior in a liberal wrapper, they pay best after all.  How noble some of you are, how virtuous.

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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2019, 09:13:00 pm »
Hey, did you see all of the substance, all of that depth, all of that brand today when Trudeau was asked about his ambassadors comment to a Chinese media only news conference?  I suppose Mr. Deep™ hadn't had yet received his answers from the actual PM.  He wasn't sure which brand he was supposed to be today, which way was the wind blowing anyway?

Aside from that what a shit show these guys are, that's at least twice now they have had press conferences without inviting our media, o but it was Harper that was the evil, secretive one.  But lots of people are seemingly not only willing, but damned happy to accept this behavior in a liberal wrapper, they pay best after all.  How noble some of you are, how virtuous.

Yeah, all Harper did was only allow a few hand picked press people to ask a limited number of questions that were pre-screened. Oh but how easy to ignore history you don't like.

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2019, 10:33:52 am »
He wasn't sure which brand he was supposed to be today, which way was the wind blowing anyway?

poochy! This thread needs comparative reference points... a brand-off! Care to start with your preferred party/leader's brand... waiting, waiting... for your milquetoast best! 
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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2019, 12:45:13 am »
At the very least, Trudeau has probably had sex with Ivanka Trump.
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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2019, 11:28:48 pm »
Trudeau also has great taste in friends:

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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2019, 12:01:11 am »
Trudeau also has great taste in friends:

perhaps in keeping with the thread subject, extend your reference to a brand identifier (remember, context is always welcome) - thanks in advance.
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Re: The Trudeau Brand
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2019, 11:29:16 am »
The only brand Trudeau has as proven by Lavalin is he is a liar.

1-Trudeau has repeatedly claimed to have reduced taxes for middle class Canadian families based on reducing the second lowest level of personal income tax rate from 22 to 20.5 percent-this is a lie-if you in fact analyze the personal income tax system as it now is thanks to Trudeau because he eliminated income splitting and other tax credits to income  as well as increasing payroll taxe which have in fact raised, not lowered taxes for o81%1 percent of middle income Canadian families-once the payroll tax is fully implemented the average parent or parents with a child or children under age 18. which means necessarily 98.8 percent of middle income Canadian families with children (with incomes ranging from $77,839 to $110,201) will pay  on average, $2,260 more ach year and to be specific of 2.988 million families with children in Canada (excluding those in Quebec), 2.756 million, or 92.2 percent, will pay higher taxes—$2,218 more, on average, each year and furthermore once the increase in CPP payroll taxes is fully implemented, nearly all Canadian families—regardless of where they stand in the income distribution—will pay higher taxes. The above was analyzed and you can find it at the Fraser Institute.
2-During Trudeau’s 2013 election campaign he accused a conservative Minister of wasting money buying orange juice while in a hotel (rightfully so) and then vowed he and his government would never waste money on travel and he would fully account for his expenses. At the time Trudeau said this in fact Parliamentary records show that then Prime Minister Stephen Harper spent a total of $284,681.96 throughout the fiscal period 2012-2013 but at the same time, Justin Trudeau while a back bench Member of Parliament representing Papineau charged and was reimbusred $386,713.99 for travel.In fact Harper’s spending of $284, 681.96 was the second lowest spending of ANY MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT during 2012-2013.
Cite for the above: (http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/800297-mp-expenses2013.html)
Trudeau claimed he would make monthly disclosures of all travel expenses by him or any Liberal MP once elected. Since elected he has gone on at least 8 major trips himself and is the only member of Parliament who refuses to disclose his travel expenses.
3.Trudeau approved the sale of Norsat (builds satellite receivers for advanced satellite systems operted by Nato to a Chinese Company. No national security review was done prior to Trudeau allowing this and yet he stood up in Parliament repeatedly stating and I quote: “the process was followed”. Here is the video of him lying: spencerfernando.com/2017/06/15/watch-trudeau-lies-repeatedly-endangering-national-security

4.During the 2015 federal election, Justin Trudeau promised to "make every vote count" and that the 2015 election would be the last under the first-past-the-post voting system. On February 1, 2017, Trudeau abandoned that pledge. At that time, NDP MP Nathan Cullen stated, "What Trudeau proved himself today was to be a liar, was to be of the most cynical variety of politician." The Trudeau government has also stalled on its promise to address the voter suppression measures in the Harper government's Fair Elections Act.
5. In regards to the climate Trudeau about-faced and approved the 890,000 barrel per day Kinder Morgan tar sands pipeline and did not contrary to what he said he wouod do implement the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples by forcing the pipeline through territories without free, prior and informed consent which has caused Grand Chief Stewart Phillip to call Justin a "serial liar".
6. During the last election, Trudeau promised to restore lost protections and bring in modern safeguards to protect navigable waters in response to Harper cutting government cutting protection for 2.5 million lakes and rivers. Trudeau’s Bill C-69 on which was supposed to do this does NOT restore lost protections, consider the environmental impacts of obstructions on navigable waters, or monitor the cumulative impacts of 'minor' projects.
7. During the last election Trudea  promised to "negotiate a new Health Accord" including "a long-term agreement on funding".  In direct contradiction in September 2016, the federal Health Minister announced the government wouldn't increase the funding formula imposed by Stephen Harper. That Health Minister by the way now resigned as a Minister and is on the verge of being thrown out of caucus for suggesting Trudeau is blocking the entire truth about Lavalin and why she resigned and what the issues are involved with it.
In case Liberals need a cite for the above they can go to: https://canadians.org/blog/council-outlines-trudeaus-record-broken-promises
In regards to Trudeau’s lies about his economic policies go to: https://www.equedia.com/justin-trudeau-broken-promises/ which highlights among other things that while he promised no deficits and the budget balancing itself in fact: national debt rose by at least $113 billion in 2016, 29.4 billion 2017, $29 billion in 2018, and 17.7 billion in 2019.


If we go to the non partisan polimeter on Trudeau it reports he still has not addresed 31 of h is 231 promises, achieved 97 of his promises, broke 44, and the jury is still reserved on 57 of the 231 keeping in mind the 231 promises include promises ranging from small to big but do not differentiate although I did above with some of the bigger broken ones.
Here are 10 key broken promises the Toronto Sun claims: https://torontosun.com/2017/03/25/10-key-promises-trudeau-has-broken-since-becoming-pm/wcm/19ab1228-602a-4fc4-a10a-fcf920cd0447
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