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Online Slim Shady

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The Sad State of Canada
« on: October 26, 2022, 11:16:06 am »
I thought that we could really use a thread about the sad state of our country, since it's deteriorating so badly.

Man dies after waiting 16 hours in Quebec hospital to see a doctor
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/man-dies-after-waiting-16-hours-quebec-hospital-1.6626601

But hey, at least he didn't have to pay right?!  LOL!

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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2022, 11:42:52 am »
Decades of government underfunding + personnel shortage due to covid exhaustion = trouble.
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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2022, 11:47:16 am »
Decades of government underfunding + personnel shortage due to covid exhaustion = trouble.

Also an aging population with more health issues jamming the system.
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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2022, 12:21:15 pm »
Decades of government underfunding + personnel shortage due to covid exhaustion = trouble.
And our federal government's unlimited immigration policy, which has sent the ratio of patients to doctors, and patients to nurses skyrocketing.


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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2022, 02:02:03 pm »
If you blame the government then the growth planning and underfunding comes before immigration.

I mean, if they were smart enough to recognize how bad their planning and funding was they could presumably do something about that rather than stop immigration... that doesn't quite make sense.

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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2022, 02:40:42 pm »
And our federal government's unlimited immigration policy, which has sent the ratio of patients to doctors, and patients to nurses skyrocketing.

cite required!

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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2022, 02:58:14 pm »
2019 is the most recent data available.
"The overall growth rate of the regulated nursing population eligible to practise was approximately 1.9%. ... The Canadian population, meanwhile, has grown 1.4% (based on 2017-2018 data)."

So yeah. Typical unsubstantiated shady BS.

https://www.cna-aiic.ca/en/nursing/regulated-nursing-in-canada/nursing-statistics

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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2022, 03:19:37 pm »
2019 is the most recent data available.
"The overall growth rate of the regulated nursing population eligible to practise was approximately 1.9%. ... The Canadian population, meanwhile, has grown 1.4% (based on 2017-2018 data)."

So yeah. Typical unsubstantiated shady BS.

https://www.cna-aiic.ca/en/nursing/regulated-nursing-in-canada/nursing-statistics
Complete nonsense. 

Frustration mounts as Canadians without primary care doctors continue to wait
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/frustration-mounts-as-canadians-without-primary-care-doctors-continue-to-wait-1.6063340

6M Canadians don't have a family doctor, a third of them have been looking for over a year: report
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/6m-canadians-don-t-have-a-family-doctor-a-third-of-them-have-been-looking-for-over-a-year-report-1.6059581

CNA urges Canada’s premiers to take immediate action and avoid the collapse of the health-care system
https://www.cna-aiic.ca/en/blogs/cn-content/2022/07/07/cna-urges-canadas-premiers-to-take-immediate-actio

Canada’s nursing shortage at a glance
A 2018 analysis predicted a shortage of 117,600 nurses in Canada by 2030
https://nursesunions.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/nurses_shortage_media_ref_guide_comp.pdf

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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2022, 03:37:04 pm »
None of those state anything about the nurse-population ratio you claimed was falling out of whack because of immigration. I provided the most recent data that shows your contention was wrong. But a bunch of unrelated links might disguise the fact you don't know what you're talking about...maybe. 😂

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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2022, 03:50:26 pm »
Complete nonsense. 

Frustration mounts as Canadians without primary care doctors continue to wait
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/frustration-mounts-as-canadians-without-primary-care-doctors-continue-to-wait-1.6063340

6M Canadians don't have a family doctor, a third of them have been looking for over a year: report
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/6m-canadians-don-t-have-a-family-doctor-a-third-of-them-have-been-looking-for-over-a-year-report-1.6059581

CNA urges Canada’s premiers to take immediate action and avoid the collapse of the health-care system
https://www.cna-aiic.ca/en/blogs/cn-content/2022/07/07/cna-urges-canadas-premiers-to-take-immediate-actio

Canada’s nursing shortage at a glance
A 2018 analysis predicted a shortage of 117,600 nurses in Canada by 2030
https://nursesunions.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/nurses_shortage_media_ref_guide_comp.pdf

Not a single mention of immigration in any of those sources. Another Shiddy faceplant.

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2022, 05:34:28 pm »
Not to mention the other fact shady didn't notice: the representation of nurses and healthcare workers among Canadian immigrants.
You'd have to be pretty stupid to think we're going to run out of nurses because of immigration when those are a sizable portion of the people who are immigrating.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2021001/article/00004-eng.htm

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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2022, 07:02:50 pm »
Also an aging population with more health issues jamming the system.

We could see that coming at least a couple of decades ago but our governments did nothing to prepare for it.
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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2022, 08:50:14 pm »
We could see that coming at least a couple of decades ago but our governments did nothing to prepare for it.

Thank you.

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2022, 11:14:12 pm »
And our federal government's unlimited immigration policy, which has sent the ratio of patients to doctors, and patients to nurses skyrocketing.
Well a lot of doctors and medical workers now are immigrants too.

The dumb immigration policy is the parent reunification problem.  They bring in a random lottery of older parents for some immigrants, some the same age as boomers.  The kids have to pay for their parents healthcare (for i think 10 years after they arrive, which is a joke, they're just going to get less healthy as they age lol).  But whether they pay or not they still use healthcare resources.
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Re: The Sad State of Canada
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2022, 11:17:33 pm »
We could see that coming at least a couple of decades ago but our governments did nothing to prepare for it.

For some reason your generation effed itself over, which is odd.  Oh wait I forgot, politicians can get privileged access to hospitals and whatnot I forgot.
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