Canadian Politics Today

Right, they are all retards. What a miserable life you must lead, so angry all the time.

Yes, it’s me the guy with a family and a job and hobbies who doesn’t have 8 hours to spare to stand in line to look at a box with a dead stranger in it that’s living a miserable life. Nailed it big guy.

It’s really telling that you and the other people acting offended here can’t even attempt to articulate the phenomenon/spectacle we’ve been witnessing here, it’s like asking a fish to explain water only it’s ideology.

Yes, it’s me the guy with a family and a job and hobbies who doesn’t have 8 hours to spare to stand in line to look at a box with a dead stranger in it that’s living a miserable life. Nailed it big guy.

It’s really telling that you and the other people acting offended here can’t even attempt to articulate the phenomenon/spectacle we’ve been witnessing here, it’s like asking a fish to explain water only it’s ideology.

I really don't give a fat fig if you like the Monarchy or not, I'm just amazed at how bitter and twisted you are and so outraged that millions of people are paying their respects to this woman and her 70 years of service to her country.

I really don't give a fat fig if you like the Monarchy or not, I'm just amazed at how bitter and twisted you are and so outraged that millions of people are paying their respects to this woman and her 70 years of service to her country.

Service? Name one thing she accomplished besides “existing.”

And yeah you clearly give a fig, it’s obvious you find the idea of mocking this nonsense offensive.

I really don't give a fat fig if you like the Monarchy or not, I'm just amazed at how bitter and twisted you are and so outraged that millions of people are paying their respects to this woman and her 70 years of service to her country.

I don’t get the anger either. She has been queen since Churchill. Something like 90% of Canadians were born during her reign and have never known another monarch.

She’s like a grandmother to many, a constant. She kept her promise and was swearing in PM’s until 2 days before she died.

Ambivalence, ok but anger that others respect her seems strange.

There’s been nothing of the sort in our generation.

Line to view Queen now 8km long. Westminster to Tower Bridge is not a short walk. I've done it. The route goes by Lambeth Bridge which is upstream of Westminster making it even longer.

How long will it be on the weekend?

I don’t get the anger either. She has been queen since Churchill. Something like 90% of Canadians were born during her reign and have never known another monarch.

She’s like a grandmother to many, a constant. She kept her promise and was swearing in PM’s until 2 days before she died.

Ambivalence, ok but anger that others respect her seems strange.

There’s been nothing of the sort in our generation.

How many would have her work ethic in their nineties? I know i won't, if i ever get there.

Service? Name one thing she accomplished besides “existing.”

I guess it depends on how  you define 'accomplished'.

Granted, she has never ended world hunger, or cured the world of some horrible disease. But, she did provide a certain function to the UK (and to the lesser extent Canadian) government that may not have been earth shattering or spectacular, but had some usefulness nonetheless.

There is a certain value in having a non-political head-of-state, even if it is just for ceremonial purposes. For example, when she grants knighthoods (or when the Canadian gov general grants the order of Canada), it is not "the conservative/labor/liberal/etc. prime minister granting the award", but someone who is not tainted by "which party do you belong to".  (And if you don't see the value in that, just look south of the border, when President Stubby McBonespurs attended a ceremony to honor Native American WW2 vets, and proceeded to make various racial slurs and political insults.)

And while her reign wasn't 100% perfect, it was much "cleaner" (i.e. fewer scandals) than any political leader would have had in the same time period. You would hope that a king or queen would act dignified (while at the same time living life under constant scrutiny) and she managed to do that.

And lets look at a few of the other things she has done:

- She (as well as many other royals) served in the military. (In the case of Queen Liz she was a mechanic and driver, I think involving ambulance services)

- As previous royals had done (and as King Chuckles is doing) she has turned over most revenue from various royal properties (which are technically the property of the royal family) to the government (in  exchange for a yearly stipend). This is a voluntary practice, but the net result is that the government benefits from millions of dollars per year. If she wanted to be greedy, she could have just said "screw you, I'm keeping all the profits", but she didn't.

- It is estimated that her involvement in various charities has contributed to them raising over 1 billion pounds over the years.

See: https://www.theguardian.com/voluntary-sector-network/2012/jun/11/queen-charitable-support

I was going to post this earlier, but some **** around here got in the way.

Sorry to hear about your Queen. It seems the monarchy's magic, such as it was, died with her.

If the UK abolished the monarchy unilaterally, would it abolish it for all 15 remaining Commonwealth realms? Or would all 15 have to concur? A few years back they amended the succession rules, and all the realms had to concur via their own legislation and/or constitutional amendments.

That would be rather odd, for the Monarchy to be HQ'd in London where it's been disestablished, but still exists for the other 14. Unless they plan to sell all their properties in the UK and move to Ottawa, for example.