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Offline wilber

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« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2020, 05:34:13 pm »
One thing you could do is not allow tax deductions for medical expenses incurred outside the public system for procedures that are also provided by the public system.
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« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2020, 01:42:01 am »
can you point to countries that have 2-tier systems where the 'public tier' hasn't been compromised by the development/expansion of the 'private tier'?
Sweden

hey now members squiggy & wilber - as you both are fronting Sweden's healthcare system, I'm surprised you're offering nothing... nada... bupkis to validate your claim.

like, for instance, what's the penetration rate of private coverage. What's this about Sweden's private being principally an outlet for employer based groupings? Any thoughts on how you'd like to draw a parallel between the healthcare role/responsibility of municipalities in Sweden to that of, say, provinces in Canada? Any thoughts on how/why the national Swedish government actually sets policy (policy, not standards) for all the counties/municipalities... and how that is completely opposite to what exists in Canada? And, hey now, what's this I'm reading about the inequities of coverage between "Old Stock Swedes"  ;D and new immigrant types? And waddabout actual problems with the Swedish system - like wait times! Wait now - how can wait times still be a problem for a 2-tier system you're pimpin' out, hey!

c'mon, amateurs! Get in the game...
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« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2020, 03:59:24 pm »
 ;D hey now members squiggy & wilber - after such long & hard work, I am continually heartened to watch your Pavlovian response that has you so conditioned to now regularly substitute the 'informative tag' in place of the... 'dumb tag'! Good boys... would you like your tummies rubbed?
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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2020, 04:35:51 pm »
You need to first stfu and then start to try to explain what you think you mean by your two-tier system in which there is no top and bottom. Or better still, stop wasting peoples' time with your silly nonsense.

This coming form someone who was disappointed in me using the word "retardos".  And then said you wanted to "build bridges with me".  Your above post is retardo.
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« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2020, 05:27:53 pm »
;D hey now members squiggy & wilber - after such long & hard work, I am continually heartened to watch your Pavlovian response that has you so conditioned to now regularly substitute the 'informative tag' in place of the... 'dumb tag'! Good boys... would you like your tummies rubbed?

I'm just open to ideas that could make timely healthcare available to more people. Sorry if that interferes with your agenda.
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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2020, 07:26:50 pm »
I'm just open to ideas that could make timely healthcare available to more people. Sorry if that interferes with your agenda.

If you have public healthcare and only public healthcare, the gov needs to fund it adequately.

My province doesn't give adequate funding to healthcare, and so people suffer needlessly and inhumanely.

"The economy has been relatively strong but Trudeau has chosen to run deficits year after year & has said will continue to do so well into the future.  This means we'll be in a worse & more vulnerable financial position when a recession hits when we HAVE to run deficits again." - Me, Oct. 3, 2019
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Offline waldo

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« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2020, 11:40:52 am »
I'm just open to ideas that could make timely healthcare available to more people. Sorry if that interferes with your agenda.

don't couch your position now! Be loud & proud about wanting 2-tier healthcare in Canada. And ya, if my, as you say, "agenda"... is to question/challenge your position/statements favouring 2-tier healthcare, guilty as charged!

I note you... and member squiggy still haven't replied with anything to support your claim concerning Sweden's health system - is there a problem for you guys, hey?
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« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2020, 12:10:46 pm »
This coming form someone who was disappointed in me using the word "retardos".  And then said you wanted to "build bridges with me".  Your above post is retardo.

I thought it was appropriate for wilber at the time.  Sometimes it's best to be stern with rightists. And as for you, once is o.k. but if you keep that sort of childish behaviour up then you'll also be treated the same way. Just remember who it was that started to burn bridges.
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« Reply #68 on: October 18, 2020, 03:22:15 pm »
I thought it was appropriate for wilber at the time.  Sometimes it's best to be stern with rightists. And as for you, once is o.k. but if you keep that sort of childish behaviour up then you'll also be treated the same way. Just remember who it was that started to burn bridges.

If you can't discuss anything without using labels, you are just plain lazy.
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« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2020, 12:54:47 pm »
One thing you could do is not allow tax deductions for medical expenses incurred outside the public system for procedures that are also provided by the public system.

Have you become a leftist wilbur, or are you just confused? If it's the former then welcome to the real world in Canada.

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« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2020, 03:23:11 pm »
Have you become a leftist wilbur, or are you just confused? If it's the former then welcome to the real world in Canada.

No Monty, I have an open mind when it comes to our health care system. I'm not a champion of two tier systems but there may be some advantages to parallel systems. If you have some other ideas, feel free to bring them up but if you are stuck at just throwing more money at the present system, there isn't much to discuss.

Try it without the labels and insults, you might get a better response. You just come across as a left wing Trump with your dismissive insulting attitude.
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« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2020, 05:02:51 pm »
Try it without the labels and insults, you might get a better response. You just come across as a left wing Trump with your dismissive insulting attitude.

I thought Montgomery was a rightist, given his attitude towards indigenous fishing rights.  Rightists are often anti-indigenous rights.
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« Reply #72 on: October 20, 2020, 12:46:55 pm »
No Monty, I have an open mind when it comes to our health care system. I'm not a champion of two tier systems but there may be some advantages to parallel systems. If you have some other ideas, feel free to bring them up but if you are stuck at just throwing more money at the present system, there isn't much to discuss.

Try it without the labels and insults, you might get a better response. You just come across as a left wing Trump with your dismissive insulting attitude.

In a sense I agree that your mind has been opened wilbur, but now it's time to patch the hole.
You can rightly accuse me of wanting to throw more money at the present system, because I haven't heard any other solutions to what is lacking in our healthcare system.

So now if you've patched up the hole then how about a Conservative idea or two?

As to your non-specific suggestion that there could be some advantage to a 'parallel' (?) system, I'll provide something a bit more specific. Anyone who wants something different from what is provided to Canadians, are free to travel to some other country to get it.

So what are you on about wilbur, if not just blowing smoke up a dead dog's a-s?