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« on: August 15, 2018, 12:09:55 pm »
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ottawa-plans-to-announce-new-stat-holiday-1.4053676

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OTTAWA – The federal government is planning to announce a new statutory holiday to mark Canada’s destructive residential school legacy.

CTV News has confirmed that the government is consulting with Indigenous groups ahead of moving forward with declaring an annual day to acknowledge what has been declared a time of cultural genocide in Canada.

As first reported by The Globe and Mail, the government is eyeing two possible dates for the holiday: either National Indigenous Peoples day on June 21, or Sept. 30, which is recognized as Orange Shirt Day.

I'm assuming this is going to have to be a fake Holiday like Remembrance Day and Easter Monday. Only Unionized Government workers will get it off. No way you're going to get companies to give people days off a week before Canada Day or two weeks after Labour Day.

How are Canadians supposed to receive a day like this? Is it just going to be a government thing and that's it? People look forward to Holidays. No one is going to meet a day off a solemn reminder of the sins of Canadian governments of the past.

This is more evidence the JT government is strong on Feels and Weak on ACTUAL legislations. Going into the last year of their mandate, they've done precious little for Canadians.

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2018, 04:43:24 pm »
If it costs little to no money, JT will do it for the aboriginals.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 05:10:24 pm »
If it costs little to no money, JT will do it for the aboriginals.
This give away is a 0.5% raise for civil servants. If gets to extended to provincial civil servants the cost will be ~300-500 million/year. That is not cheap.
Of course some portion will be paid for with service cuts which will hurt people who need government services.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2018, 06:13:14 pm »
Ah, another day in which all those filthy whiteys can wring their hands and sob bitter tears of self-hatred and loathing like Trudeau and his ilk do every day. Okay, it'll cost a billion or more a year if it's an actual statutory holiday that everyone gets off, but hey, it's not HIS money.

The biggest thing driving the rise of the far right is the far left, and their moronic identity politics.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2018, 06:15:33 pm »
If it costs little to no money, JT will do it for the aboriginals.

How does this do one damned thing for aboriginals? You think it'll make some guy who's never had a job and is sitting in some crappy, run-down shack in buttfuck Saskatchewan feel better to know the white people in the city are having barbecues and enjoying a day at the cottage to assuage their collective guilt over  the residential school system?

The only people who are going to be happy about this are the progressive **** and the native rights industry activists. And, of course, all those Canadians who get another day off work at full pay for no work.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 06:23:08 pm »
I never read the Truth and Reconciliation report, I prefer to remain ignorant.


#80: We call upon the federal government, in collaboration with Aboriginal peoples, to establish, as a statutory holiday, a National Day for Truth and Reconciliation to honour Survivors, their families, and communities, and ensure that public commemoration of the history and legacy of residential schools remains a vital component of the reconciliation process.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2018, 06:29:34 pm »
I never read the Truth and Reconciliation report, I prefer to remain ignorant.


#80: We call upon the federal government, in collaboration with Aboriginal peoples, to establish, as a statutory holiday, a National Day for Truth and Reconciliation to honour Survivors, their families, and communities, and ensure that public commemoration of the history and legacy of residential schools remains a vital component of the reconciliation process.

And I should give one fat, dripping **** about that why?
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2018, 06:46:35 pm »
And I should give one fat, dripping **** about that why?

So you are saying the commission was just there to whitewash things and not make real change.

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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2018, 07:16:47 pm »
How does this do one damned thing for aboriginals? You think it'll make some guy who's never had a job and is sitting in some crappy, run-down shack in buttfuck Saskatchewan feel better to know the white people in the city are having barbecues and enjoying a day at the cottage to assuage their collective guilt over  the residential school system?

The only people who are going to be happy about this are the progressive **** and the native rights industry activists. And, of course, all those Canadians who get another day off work at full pay for no work.


I get the image of a deer in the headlights. You must truly be feeling remorse but choose to hide from it. It's what righties tend to do.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2018, 07:21:24 pm »
If it costs little to no money, JT will do it for the aboriginals.

If it becomes an official federal stat, it will be very expensive for business and government.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2018, 08:48:19 pm »
So you are saying the commission was just there to whitewash things and not make real change.

I'm saying the commission was an excuse for the native rights industry lawyers and hangers on and activist to make a lot of money and almost none of their recommendations had anything to do with abuses in residential schools. It was part and parcel of the never changing program from progressives who hate and despite Canada, the West and capitalism to demonize this country. It has served to make what was a minor program (most native kids did not go) into some kind of massive national tragedy akin to the natives Holocaust.

All it was, in reality, was an attempt to 'civilize' and educate natives. Misguided, yes, but you have to remember that virtually every member of parliament and PM in the early days, including McDonald, went to boarding schools themselves. They were, in the words of the activists 'ripped from their homes' at a very early age and would spend the rest of their childhood and youths at boarding schools far away from their families save for Christmas and summer holidays. That was the norm.

Were there sexual abuses over the years? Hell, yeah! There were a LOT of abuses in the world back then. Didn't a commission in Pennsylvania just come out with a report about all the abuses by Catholic priests there over the past decades? And there's no reason to think Pennsylvania was any different than anywhere else, nor any reason to believe the Catholic churches were any worse than Baptists, Jews or that religious figures were any more likely to do it than coaches, teachers, doctors or anyone else. Sexual abuse of children was something deeply under the radar of a society which simply did not understand it and did not talk about sex - EVER. But natives were no more targeted than whites or anyone else, and there was no attempt to destroy natives. Rather the opposite.

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2018, 09:03:04 pm »
I'm saying the commission was an excuse for the native rights industry lawyers and hangers on and activist to make a lot of money and almost none of their recommendations had anything to do with abuses in residential schools. It was part and parcel of the never changing program from progressives who hate and despite Canada, the West and capitalism to demonize this country. It has served to make what was a minor program (most native kids did not go) into some kind of massive national tragedy akin to the natives Holocaust.

All it was, in reality, was an attempt to 'civilize' and educate natives. Misguided, yes, but you have to remember that virtually every member of parliament and PM in the early days, including McDonald, went to boarding schools themselves. They were, in the words of the activists 'ripped from their homes' at a very early age and would spend the rest of their childhood and youths at boarding schools far away from their families save for Christmas and summer holidays. That was the norm.

Were there sexual abuses over the years? Hell, yeah! There were a LOT of abuses in the world back then. Didn't a commission in Pennsylvania just come out with a report about all the abuses by Catholic priests there over the past decades? And there's no reason to think Pennsylvania was any different than anywhere else, nor any reason to believe the Catholic churches were any worse than Baptists, Jews or that religious figures were any more likely to do it than coaches, teachers, doctors or anyone else. Sexual abuse of children was something deeply under the radar of a society which simply did not understand it and did not talk about sex - EVER. But natives were no more targeted than whites or anyone else, and there was no attempt to destroy natives. Rather the opposite.

You are trying to compare boarding schools such as your namesake went to with residential schools? You're stretching even further than normal there.

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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2018, 09:22:11 pm »
If it becomes an official federal stat, it will be very expensive for business and government.

Why is that, you realize there are only 5 federal statutory holidays: Canada Day, Labour Day, New Year's Day, Christmas, and Good Friday. In fact why are the last 2 even there?

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2018, 09:36:04 pm »
Perhaps we could combine Res. School Day and New Years Day where we could join in acknowledging a previous error while at the same time we look forward to future successes.