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Offline the_squid

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« Reply #90 on: June 22, 2020, 05:54:05 pm »
I got a ticket for that once. Just a ticket.

Are you justifying RCMP beating Chief Adam up?

I don’t believe that they let you drive away without insurance.  You would’ve got a ticket and your car would’ve been towed. 
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« Reply #91 on: June 22, 2020, 07:26:16 pm »
Are you justifying beating Chief Adam?
Not justifying anything on either side, I just don’t buy your claim that it was a setup just beat someone up.
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« Reply #92 on: June 22, 2020, 09:06:24 pm »
Not justifying anything on either side, I just don’t buy your claim that it was a setup just beat someone up.

It's a classic.

How about we disband the RCMP and make them provincial/territorial forces?

And cancel their new toys.

https://ipolitics.ca/2020/06/22/rcmp-plan-to-buy-more-armoured-vehicles-amid-new-scrutiny-over-policing-tactics/

“If there’s trust in the police force, there’s trust in how they use this equipment — and not abuse it.”

Ya that's a big NO.
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« Reply #93 on: June 24, 2020, 03:45:20 pm »
Chief Allan Adam's charges have been dropped.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/allan-adam-athabasca-chipewyan-first-nation-arrest-rcmp-assault-1.5624976
In a news conference later, Beresh said the Crown's decision to drop charges validates Adam's view that the arrest was "excessive, unreasonable and unwarranted."

Adam's March arrest became controversial following the release of dashcam video showing an RCMP officer tackling him to the ground.

In a statement, Alberta Justice spokesperson Carla Jones said the Crown withdrew the two charges after reassessing the prosecution standard based on an examination of available evidence, "including the disclosure of additional relevant material."
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Adam's case gained national attention after dashcam video of the March 10 arrest in Fort McMurray showed an arriving officer tackling Adam to the ground without warning, punching him in the head and putting him in a chokehold.

"It is clear that his race played a role in the police decision to charge," Beresh said. He said Adam believes the charges were laid as a "police shield to their aggressive and abusive conduct."


It wasn't clear to me from the police dashcam video at what point the "assault" on a police officer was claimed to have happened. It may have referred to him slapping the cop's hands away when the cop manhandled his wife, but I never heard either officer tell Adam that he was being placed under arrest, nor what the charge was, as is required.

The cop who assaulted him is still on full duty, carrying a gun, while the incident is being investigated by ASIRT.

The cop who assaulted him is also awaiting trial on previous off-duty assault + charges.
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« Reply #94 on: June 24, 2020, 06:21:54 pm »
This is truly unbelievable ...
Either Lucki doesn't get it, or the RCMP won't allow her to speak the truth:

Asked about systemic racism in RCMP, Lucki discusses different heights of officers
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/asked-about-systemic-racism-in-rcmp-lucki-discusses-different-heights-of-officers-1.4998165

"So, of course, how many six foot people do we hire? And there are people in all different cultures that may not be six feet, including, there's not a lot of women that are six feet tall, that would not be able to get through that exam, that type of test."

I am just ... um ... well ... wow ... speechless ...
Tone deaf does not even begin to describe Commissioner Lucki's brain dead response.

Most police forces at least pay lip service to addressing racism in policing. Lol
 
The RCMP organization is clearly not up to the job of policing in the 21st century.
 
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« Reply #95 on: June 24, 2020, 06:47:24 pm »
I hope Adam sues or lays charges so we can hear all the evidence.
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« Reply #97 on: June 27, 2020, 07:33:08 pm »
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-blair-defends-lucki-as-senators-call-rcmp-commissioner-embarrassing/

As calls to 'defund' police grow, some say it's time for the RCMP to do less
 
Public Safety is reviewing the RCMP's role in regional and municipal policing

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-contract-policing-defund-1.5626544

The federal government is taking a closer look at the RCMP's contract policing obligations — a review taking on new relevance as calls mount to reallocate police budgets across North America.
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Mounties are assigned to contract policing in roughly 150 municipalities, all three territories and in every province except Ontario and Quebec. The force also has federal policing obligations ranging from protecting the prime minister to thwarting terrorist attacks and investigating organized crime.


Well ... this looks serious.
I say divest the contracted community detachments to the provinces immediately.

There are already RCMP commanders in each province. Everybody still goes to work and goes home for dinner.
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« Reply #98 on: June 28, 2020, 12:36:23 am »
In the US and Canada and other western nations there are calls to defund the police while seeing a breakdown in the rule of law.  Meanwhile, the Chinese government offers zero human rights to its citizens and has the ability to control every single aspect of its society with an iron fist.  In short, China can direct society and the economy as much as any government can in order to strengthen the country and achieve it's domestic and international goals.  We're totally f*cked.
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« Reply #99 on: June 28, 2020, 10:31:55 am »
In the US and Canada and other western nations there are calls to defund the police while seeing a breakdown in the rule of law.  Meanwhile, the Chinese government offers zero human rights to its citizens and has the ability to control every single aspect of its society with an iron fist.  In short, China can direct society and the economy as much as any government can in order to strengthen the country and achieve it's domestic and international goals.  We're totally f*cked.

If you read between the lines you'll see that the term "defund the police" actually refers to restructuring of police forces such as contract policing i.e. the RCMP, to try to correct the current breakdown in the rule of law, specifically the racism within police forces. and if you think we are totally f*cked then you are welcome to move to china. I think the rest of us will stay here as we enjoy our human rights.
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