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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2019, 09:32:02 pm »
The "P" in RCMP stands for "Poo", or so i have been told.
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2019, 12:33:40 am »
I can't say that would be my first response, but ... fill yer boots! Lol

Update:
https://globalnews.ca/news/5914384/compromised-probe-linked-to-alleged-rcmp-mole-was-elite-huge-intelligence-file/


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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2020, 08:49:59 pm »
Well what to say about the RCMP and systemic racism ... they don't have it ... and they're going to get rid of it ... and Trudeau is going to make sure they do.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-systemic-racism-lucki-trudeau-1.5607622

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/brenda-lucki-systemic-racism-rcmp-1.5610355

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/northern-alberta-chief-accuses-rcmp-of-beating-him-over-expired-licence-plate

I started this thread because the RCMP have a lot of changing to do ... or perhaps Kash Heed (link in OP) was right:

...former solicitor general of B.C. Kash Heed lashed out at the RCMP.

He told The VOICE on Tuesday: “The entire organization needs to be imploded right now and completely rebuilt from the ground up or the top down – whatever metaphor you want to use to describe it – because this is a completely broken organization that cannot be fixed with its current culture, structure, leadership.”


I tend to agree.
The NWMP/RCMP was created to commit genocide ... for capitalism, push the railway through, police the apartheid.

So now they harass and brutalize Indigenous people for plate stickers.

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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2020, 11:22:13 pm »
So now they harass and brutalize Indigenous people for plate stickers.

I agree that the RCMP are pieces of crap.

The 2nd cop came in too aggressive, but the chief 1. grabbed the 1st officer when he tried to put his wife in cuffs, 2. threatened the cop with some karate stance thing, twice, and 3. resisted arrested.
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« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2020, 11:24:35 am »
I agree that the RCMP are pieces of crap.

The 2nd cop came in too aggressive, but the chief 1. grabbed the 1st officer when he tried to put his wife in cuffs, 2. threatened the cop with some karate stance thing, twice, and 3. resisted arrested.

All of that over an expired plate. 

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« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2020, 12:35:53 pm »
All of that over an expired plate.

I think the chief flipped out over the ticket.
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« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2020, 12:39:49 pm »
I think the chief flipped out over the ticket.

And in turn, the RCMP acted far from professional.

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« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2020, 01:11:22 pm »
And in turn, the RCMP acted far from professional.

The chief broke 4 laws, the 1st cop showed extreme restraint as he waited for backup, and the 2nd cop (backup) acted a bit aggressively and arguably used too much force while the chief was resisting arrest after being warned.
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« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2020, 01:22:21 pm »
The chief broke 4 laws, the 1st cop showed extreme restraint as he waited for backup, and the 2nd cop (backup) acted a bit aggressively and arguably used too much force while the chief was resisting arrest after being warned.

I would hope you didn't think I was talking about the first officer. The second arrived on the scene with a tackle.

That brings us to another point - I thought the RCMP didn't go to calls alone anymore?

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« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2020, 01:23:59 pm »
Of course that brings us to another problem. When the commanding officer reviewed the footage, he said it was fine. Whether or not it was technically fine isn't the point. Such a statement was tone deaf as fuck.
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« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2020, 02:05:05 pm »
Of course that brings us to another problem. When the commanding officer reviewed the footage, he said it was fine. Whether or not it was technically fine isn't the point. Such a statement was tone deaf as ****.

I'm not sure officer safety and how to arrest violent suspects should really be dictated by public opinion.  However, in this case, if it happened like the Chief says it did, clearly this was unnecessary and violent by the cops.  Why would you need to pull someone out of their car over expired documents, unless they started to try and drive away?

If it happened like the cops say, it was probably justified.  I like it when the cops pull over uninsured motorists. 

Bodycams on the cops would give us a clue....   but cops don't like those...   I wonder why...?

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« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2020, 02:33:15 pm »
I'm not sure officer safety and how to arrest violent suspects should really be dictated by public opinion.  However, in this case, if it happened like the Chief says it did, clearly this was unnecessary and violent by the cops.  Why would you need to pull someone out of their car over expired documents, unless they started to try and drive away?

If it happened like the cops say, it was probably justified.  I like it when the cops pull over uninsured motorists. 

Bodycams on the cops would give us a clue....   but cops don't like those...   I wonder why...?

If you are stopped because you don't have a sticker on your plate and the cop finds you have no insurance, you should expect a ticket and have your car towed. Not sure what was happening here.
Police are fairly open to the idea of body cameras but are concerned about the costs which will be considerable and will take away from funding other police functions. Also, what will be the protocol for using them, they can't be left on all the time.

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« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2020, 02:35:41 pm »
I'm not sure officer safety and how to arrest violent suspects should really be dictated by public opinion. 

I think it's an important part of any policy.

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« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2020, 02:47:31 pm »
I think it's an important part of any policy.

Ignorance isn't an important part of any policy.

I know police officers who will no longer carry a taser because using it just isn't worth the grief they will get no matter how justified. Now they are faced with physically grappling with suspects that may outweigh them by 100 lbs, are high on something and may be HIV or Hep C positive. So yes, they need tools to do that and one is the knee to the neck but only for a few seconds until they can be cuffed. The ones I know think what happened to Floyd was outrageous and there is no excuse for it. They are understandably pissed at how it is affecting them.
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« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2020, 03:16:22 pm »
Ignorance isn't an important part of any policy.

I know police officers who will no longer carry a taser because using it just isn't worth the grief they will get no matter how justified. Now they are faced with physically grappling with suspects that may outweigh them by 100 lbs, are high on something and may be HIV or Hep C positive. So yes, they need tools to do that and one is the knee to the neck but only for a few seconds until they can be cuffed. The ones I know think what happened to Floyd was outrageous and there is no excuse for it. They are understandably pissed at how it is affecting them.

The 'one bad apple' bullshit again. There are a lot of bad cops. That's reality.
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