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Offline wilber

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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2022, 09:00:14 pm »
Walduh doubles down….   Subjecting someone to mistreatment because they’re indigenous is not racist….  LOL

Look, I think this was handled poorly but you branding people as racists is just **** ignorant. Showing poor judgement in a situation does not make a person on a racist. From the video, other than being cuffed they were not being abused. physically or verbally. We know nothing about these officers. I thought you were better than that.
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2022, 09:08:57 pm »
squiggy's pathetic strawman! Again, the Neal investigation/report substantiated 2 instances of misconduct by the VPD officers & the waldo reads no finding of racism (systemic or localized to the event in question) and no finding that the VPD officers were racist in their actions.

let's recap: you got the police force wrong to begin with... and your thread title was not supported by the initial reference link you provided. And now, after a re-do of your OP, you double-down by wrongly referencing the VancouverPoliceDepartment instead of the civilian VancouverPoliceBoard.
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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2022, 09:23:19 pm »
Look, I think this was handled poorly but you branding people as racists is just **** ignorant. Showing poor judgement in a situation does not make a person on a racist. From the video, other than being cuffed they were not being abused. physically or verbally. We know nothing about these officers. I thought you were better than that.

So you don’t believe the Vancouver Police Board when they say the cops treated these folks poorly because they are indigenous?
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2022, 09:27:44 pm »
So you don’t believe the Vancouver Police Board when they say the cops treated these folks poorly because they are indigenous?

Maybe they did but so did the bank. It still doesn't make those officers racists.

The label racist has become the new dog whistle for anyone who has nothing more to add to the discussion.
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2022, 10:49:14 pm »
Look, I think this was handled poorly but you branding people as racists is just **** ignorant. Showing poor judgement in a situation does not make a person on a racist. From the video, other than being cuffed they were not being abused. physically or verbally. We know nothing about these officers. I thought you were better than that.

Look into your soul and ask yourself if this would happen to an old white guy and an young while girl. Be honest because we all know it wouldn’t.
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2022, 10:51:55 pm »
The difference between you and me is that I can be critical of police whereas you can't be anything but. That is why any discourse between us on the subject is a waste of time. I forgot that for a moment.

The harshest criticism you’ve ever and I do mean ever mustered of police is here in this thread and all you’ve managed to muster is “gee golly gosh this is a bad look.” If you think you’re approaching this while subject with anything close to good faith then your only fooling yourself.
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2022, 10:54:11 pm »
The bank called the police because they thought the pair were trying to commit fraud. You can't even bring yourself to accept that, it's only police behaviour that was racist. You really, are pathetic.

Lol **** if with your demands for some ritual condemnation of an individual I’m employed by a private sector entity so you can keep pretending the so-called public servants weren’t complicit in the racial profiling and discrimination these people experienced.
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2022, 10:59:41 pm »
Lol **** if with your demands for some ritual condemnation of an individual I’m employed by a private sector entity so you can keep pretending the so-called public servants weren’t complicit in the racial profiling and discrimination these people experienced.
Give me a **** break, you won't even acknowledge that their motives might have been racist.

We are told there are a disproportionate number of FN in jail. That must mean the judges and prosecutors who put them there are also racist. But no.
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2022, 09:43:31 am »
Give me a **** break, you won't even acknowledge that their motives might have been racist.

Of course they were, but what difference does it make? They aren't public servants who then shirked their duty to make amends.

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We are told there are a disproportionate number of FN in jail. That must mean the judges and prosecutors who put them there are also racist. But no.

Yeah you're right there's no racism in the criminal justice system.
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2022, 10:55:10 am »
Of course they were, but what difference does it make? They aren't public servants who then shirked their duty to make amends.

Yeah you're right there's no racism in the criminal justice system.

Of course they were what? You just can't bring yourself to say the word except when it applies to the police.

I never said there is no racism in the criminal justice system. There is racism everywhere.

I am critical of those officers for not showing up but that doesn't make them racists.

It was interesting that the chief showed up and not having them there must have been embarrassing for him. I also noticed he didn't make excuses for them not being there, just said it was personal reasons which could mean anything.

I would like to know what was really behind their no show.
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« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2022, 11:03:39 am »
Of course they were what? You just can't bring yourself to say the word except when it applies to the police.

Oh my god get over yourself. The bank teller was racist, will you shut up about it now?

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I never said there is no racism in the criminal justice system. There is racism everywhere.

So what was the point of your line about the disproportionate number of Indigenous people in the criminal justice system?

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I am critical of those officers for not showing up but that doesn't make them racists.

It was interesting that the chief showed up and not having them there must have been embarrassing for him. I also noticed he didn't make excuses for them not being there, just said it was personal reasons which could mean anything.

I would like to know what was really behind their no show.

Probably a resistance to accountability.
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2022, 01:17:28 pm »
Maybe they did but so did the bank. It still doesn't make those officers racists.

The label racist has become the new dog whistle for anyone who has nothing more to add to the discussion.

The police board literally said that the officers treated them differently because they were indigenous. 

So, if someone who is indigenous is handcuffed and arrested, and someone who was of a different community/skin colour wouldn’t have been, how is that NOT racist??? 
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2022, 01:31:08 pm »
Give it a rest already you anti-police bigot.
Come now. It's not like he's ever done anything as slimy as cheer on the attack on capitol police and then try to pretend they didn't suffer any casualties.

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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2022, 02:06:21 pm »
Oh my god get over yourself. The bank teller was racist, will you shut up about it now?



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So what was the point of your line about the disproportionate number of Indigenous people in the criminal justice system?

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My point is the police seem to be the only ones you are willing to label racist.

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Probably a resistance to accountability

"Probably" is whatever one would like it to be, I would like to know the actual reasons. Did they stay away on their own accord or were they instructed to stay away and if so, by who?
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Re: VPD Officers found to be Racist
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2022, 02:40:20 pm »
My point is the police seem to be the only ones you are willing to label racist.

We weren't talking about courts and judges so it's a non-sequiter.

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"Probably" is whatever one would like it to be, I would like to know the actual reasons. Did they stay away on their own accord or were they instructed to stay away and if so, by who?

We will never know.