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Offline Michael Hardner

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Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« on: December 05, 2017, 06:05:07 am »
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/father-says-paramedics-didn-t-take-dying-son-s-injuries-seriously-1.3705931

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“The paramedic [was] telling him [to] stop acting,” Majed Al-Hasnawi said. “I’ve never seen such treatment.”
According to Al-Hasnawi, the last words he heard his son say were, “I cannot breathe.”


Al-Hasnawi’s account has been corroborated by other eyewitnesses.
“They left him on the ground, did not even respond to him,” Mohammed Hasan told reporters. “They were laughing.”
Another witness said the young victim was roughly thrown on a stretcher as though the paramedic was a “baggage handler at the airport.”
"He was lying there complaining he was hurting and they kept saying he was faking," Tom Raczynski, who witnessed the aftermath of the shooting, told The Canadian Press. “The one paramedic kept saying, 'Oh you're a good actor’… I just thought it was disgusting.”
In response to these accusations, Hamilton Paramedic Services issued a statement Monday.
“As a result of information we have received, HPS has notified the Ministry of Health and Long Term Care Investigations Branch and we have initiated an investigation,” part of that statement read. “Hamilton Paramedic Service sends its deepest condolences to the family of Yosif Al-Hasnawi during this difficult time.”

WTF is happening with these people ?  This story can't die like the victim did.  I am not inclined to believe such things but with multiple people supporting, and legitimate journalism reporting I can't ignore it.

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Re: Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 08:32:36 am »
I hope we do get more info.  Its hard to believe paramedics could behave in such a way. 

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 08:51:56 am »
The article says the father's claims are corroborated by witnesses.  Standing around cracking one-liners while a guy dies would be shocking behavior for a bystander, but from a paramedic it's completely beyond the pale.

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 09:56:17 am »
Some of the comments on an article I saw "If you don't like oir health care, go back to where you came from" and "Don't worry, JT will pay you millions".   Sad that there are such people in Canada, glad they are the minority.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 10:22:40 am »
Terrible paramedics....   but what does the guy’s religion have to do with it?   Seems to be jumping to conclusions.

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Re: Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 11:28:40 am »
Terrible paramedics....   but what does the guy’s religion have to do with it?   Seems to be jumping to conclusions.

I was thinking the same thing. What's his religion got to do with it? Is the presumption that if he were a Buddhist or Christian they'd have been kinder?
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Re: Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 11:30:27 am »
Shameful.   >:(
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Re: Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 11:34:18 am »
I was thinking the same thing. What's his religion got to do with it? Is the presumption that if he were a Buddhist or Christian they'd have been kinder?

I must be doing it wrong, cuz I can’t tell between a Muslim with brown skin and an atheist with brown skin. 

If this were an atheist with brown skin, would they have saved him?

The medics should be fired and charged with causing his death, if the story is accurate that they didn’t try and help him.

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 05:54:47 am »
He's the Muslim hero that's been in the news for saving an older guy from an attack.  Nobody heard that ?  I think it's ok to point out Muslim heroes because God knows if one got caught shoplifting they would be all over the news.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 08:48:19 am »
He's the Muslim hero that's been in the news for saving an older guy from an attack.  Nobody heard that ?  I think it's ok to point out Muslim heroes because God knows if one got caught shoplifting they would be all over the news.

Yes, but what we're wondering is whether it has been suggested that his religion is the reason he was mistreated by the paramedics.  It's entirely possible that it did, of course, but so far I don't think I've read anything to support that.

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Re: Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 11:05:39 am »
He's the Muslim hero that's been in the news for saving an older guy from an attack.  Nobody heard that ?  I think it's ok to point out Muslim heroes because God knows if one got caught shoplifting they would be all over the news.

Really? I've never seen any stories of Muslim shoplifters. In fact, I rarely see stories of Muslim murderers. The media is extremely careful to never mention the religion of anyone involved in crimes. You'll never see the media in Ottawa commenting or pointing out, for example, the most of the gang shootings here are related to Muslims, specifically Somalis and Lebanese. They rarely even describe suspects if they're non-white. For example when 'swarmings' by gangs of Somali teenagers was common all the media would describe them as 'youths'. "Police are looking for a gang of a dozen youths who attacked people in South Keys Mall yesterday, stealing cell phones and Ipods". The media does its level best to protect us from our politically incorrect impulses by denying us information on which to presume people of certain ethnic backgrounds or religions might be more crime prone than others.

On the contrary, whenever a Muslim does something noteworthy it seems the media rush in to proclaim him a hero and trumpet it to the world how wonderful Muslims are.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2017, 11:07:38 am »
He's the Muslim hero that's been in the news for saving an older guy from an attack.  Nobody heard that ?  I think it's ok to point out Muslim heroes because God knows if one got caught shoplifting they would be all over the news.

I think they probably get caught shoplifting all the time.  Nobody cares.




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Re: Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2017, 12:33:17 pm »
I must be doing it wrong, cuz I can’t tell between a Muslim with brown skin and an atheist with brown skin. 
The article mentions that the shooting occurred outside a mosque, so it would be a logical assumption that the victim was Muslim. (Not exactly a guarantee, but by far the most likely, since you're more likely to find a Muslim outside a mosque than an atheist..)

Although I agree with posters who have pointed out that at this time we don't have the evidence to conclude the paramedic's negligence was tied to the victim's religion or was just general stupidity.

Supposedly paramedics initially assumed that the victim was shot with a pellet gun. This may have been due to a huge mistake by a police officer on the scene.

http://www.chch.com/al-hasnawi-death-investigation/
One man says a police officer on scene assumed Yosif was suffering from a pellet wound and was fine. “When he wasn’t. When he was still laying on the ground holding his stomach rolling around in pain is what it looked like he then turned to the kids and said, does this kid always act like this.”


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Re: Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 05:18:24 pm »
This whole thing smells of gross negligence, anyone who has a basic first aid course Knows you do a first assessment, of the area and then the patient followed up by a detailed assessment...to every victim , at every scene...that includes the police officer i assume he was the first on  the scene...The paramedics are required to do this every time, in case something gets missed.....like mistaking a pellet gun wound for a gun shot wound with all the bleeding....

I was not there, but they all deserve to lose their jobs, Tax dollars are spent on these yahoos to ensure they have some of the best first responder training , what a waste if we have a choice in whom we treat and who we don't.
get rid of their asses,   

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Re: Parametics Heckle Dying Muslim Hero
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2017, 06:24:00 pm »
Yes, but what we're wondering is whether it has been suggested that his religion is the reason he was mistreated by the paramedics.  It's entirely possible that it did, of course, but so far I don't think I've read anything to support that.

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I doubt it.