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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #270 on: July 12, 2022, 08:37:30 pm »
I bet the CPC could get a strong majority with Charest. I think, however, they're overall far too stupid for that and will lose official opposition status and be a third or fourth party under Polievre.
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« Reply #271 on: July 12, 2022, 08:51:24 pm »
I bet the CPC could get a strong majority with Charest. I think, however, they're overall far too stupid for that and will lose official opposition status and be a third or fourth party under Polievre.

It says a lot about the party when Pierre is a leading voice within the party.  How embarrassing.
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« Reply #272 on: July 13, 2022, 06:56:56 am »
This kind of retarded pablum may work...

https://youtu.be/h3Mmd3llxP8

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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #273 on: July 13, 2022, 09:54:37 am »
It's like the CPC doesn't want to govern again.

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« Reply #274 on: July 13, 2022, 10:19:49 am »
This kind of retarded pablum may work...

https://youtu.be/h3Mmd3llxP8

Not even a dog whistle anymore.


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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #275 on: July 13, 2022, 12:19:05 pm »
This kind of retarded pablum may work...

https://youtu.be/h3Mmd3llxP8

Meh, I could have been spared the wood analogy but I mostly agree with him, to a point.

"Freedom" has now become a dirty word and a "conservative meme" to the left. Let's think about that for a second.  Only in a statist society repressing civil liberties could this occur.

Statists, please downvote this post and reveal yourselves.  Show me your distain for freedom.
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« Reply #276 on: July 13, 2022, 12:46:14 pm »
Meh, I could have been spared the wood analogy but I mostly agree with him, to a point.

"Freedom" has now become a dirty word and a "conservative meme" to the left. Let's think about that for a second.  Only in a statist society repressing civil liberties could this occur.

Statists, please downvote this post and reveal yourselves.  Show me your distain for freedom.

A buzzword has no real meaning to me. 

If you want to discuss an actual issue where you think Canadians are losing freedoms, then it can be analyzed.

But the freedom you’re talking about is a campaign slogan.   Meaningless.
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« Reply #277 on: July 13, 2022, 12:55:47 pm »
^

THIS.

If you drill down as far as possible, "freedom" means:

- I don't want to wear a mask
- I think Political Correctness is threatening us

Neither of these positions are worthy of serious consideration.

Our three biggest problems:

- Unity (and the attendant shittyness of means and substance of discussion to bring us together)
- Environment (pollution, climate change waste etc.)
- Economy (runaway capitalist speculation, lack of fair wages, etc)

Imagine a leader who would step up and actually say that in public.... that person would get my vote.

Not a high school debate club president who never worked a job telling me he's going to protect my freedom.
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #278 on: July 13, 2022, 01:14:32 pm »
Meh, I could have been spared the wood analogy but I mostly agree with him, to a point.

"Freedom" has now become a dirty word and a "conservative meme" to the left. Let's think about that for a second.  Only in a statist society repressing civil liberties could this occur.


Statists, please downvote this post and reveal yourselves.  Show me your distain for freedom.

lmao what a mark.
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« Reply #279 on: July 13, 2022, 02:02:45 pm »
Graham is all about the buzzwords, slogans and truthiness without the thought given to the actual reality.

“A sense of Justice that traverses space and time” is a prime example of this.  It’s a completely meaningless statement.  But, from what I can tell, he believes it.   What “it” is remains ambiguous and unexplained. 


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« Reply #280 on: July 13, 2022, 02:24:03 pm »
^

THIS.

If you drill down as far as possible, "freedom" means:

- I don't want to wear a mask
- I think Political Correctness is threatening us

Neither of these positions are worthy of serious consideration.

That's your opinion, and an exaggeration.  Masks are fine, but people were fined for walking outdoors in a park.  Let's think about that for a second.

In a healthy, free society it is a good thing to question authority instead of simply submitting to them.  If we don't stand up for our civil liberties we will lose them. Brushing it away with "Well, it was an emergency and for the common good" is not good enough.

You are my friend, but I will be frank and try to be respectful. You have a long track record of statist positions and your support for some if not many basic civil liberties is at many times weak, for lack of a better word (remember our discussions on privacy).   If you're ok with being controlled by government and put a high priority on order that's fine, but expect that many others may not share this.  Some feel that being chained in movement,  or speech, etc is not fun.  Even if sometimes necessary.  Even thread drift on the other board...I say just let people talk, who cares really.  Is order so important all the time, to that extent? But the big C insists on micro-managing ... which people typically resent.

A key difference of opinion that keeps popping up. On the Political Compass I lean about -4 or -5 on the authoritarian/libertarian scale, I suspect your score is higher.

I dislike Pierre as a person, he's slimy, but that doesn't mean I disagree with him on all issues.  But he is now a meme.
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #281 on: July 13, 2022, 03:00:38 pm »
but people were fined for walking outdoors in a park. 


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« Reply #282 on: July 13, 2022, 03:24:30 pm »
1.  Masks are fine, but people were fined for walking outdoors in a park.  Let's think about that for a second.

2. You are my friend, but I will be frank and try to be respectful. You have a long track record of statist positions and your support for some if not many basic civil liberties is at many times weak, for lack of a better word (remember our discussions on privacy).   If you're ok with being controlled by government and put a high priority on order that's fine, but expect that many others may not share this.  Some feel that being chained in movement,  or speech, etc is not fun.  Even if sometimes necessary.  Even thread drift on the other board...I say just let people talk, who cares really.  Is order so important all the time, to that extent? But the big C insists on micro-managing ... which people typically resent.

3. A key difference of opinion that keeps popping up. On the Political Compass I lean about -4 or -5 on the authoritarian/libertarian scale, I suspect your score is higher.  I dislike Pierre as a person, he's slimy, but that doesn't mean I disagree with him on all issues.  But he is now a meme.

1. I can disagree with that AND think that the Convoy protests were unnecessary and misguided
2. This is fair.  I don't expect you (or the convoy) to agree with me and in fact I can think that the Convoy protests were unnecessary and misguided AND sympathize.  IN fact, I believe a majority of Canadians are with me on this from a poll I saw.
3. Again, fair. 


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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #284 on: July 13, 2022, 04:24:32 pm »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/britannia-man-fined-880-while-walking-dog-through-britannia-park/wcm/2b73b63f-8622-495d-b428-8880842ab5dd/amp/ my

This is the problem with your examples…. you’re full of sh!t.  This has nothing to do with masks.   He was fined for being in the park when it was closed.  Parks were  closed for a time to avoid crowds because they didn’t know how virulent the disease was.  Once we learned, parks were open again.

This is the problem with your sloganeering….  Individual cases don’t stand up to scrutiny.  Not to mention you see conspiracies to take away your freedoms where none exist.