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« Reply #150 on: May 05, 2022, 05:50:08 pm »
first CPC leadership candidates debate: bulldog skippy takes a question on the "Freedumb Convoy"

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« Reply #151 on: May 05, 2022, 05:52:38 pm »
debate #1: Charest asked if he's a Conservative... well duh!


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« Reply #153 on: May 05, 2022, 11:17:06 pm »
debate #1: Charest asked if he's a Conservative... well duh!

Charest got booed for calling the protests illegal proving once again that conservatives are their own worst enemy.

He’s my preferred choice and I think he could bring it home for the CPC but like Peter McKay he’s just not nutty enough.
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #154 on: May 06, 2022, 05:06:13 am »
first CPC leadership candidates debate: bulldog skippy takes a question on the "Freedumb Convoy"

Ok, thanks for posting this.  I think that I get him now.

It's red meat for those conservatives who love the name calling and puff chest posing.

I also get what the left hates about him.

Is there anything in the way of ideas from him?

He had a good chance of being PM, what is the grand vision?

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« Reply #155 on: May 06, 2022, 09:29:12 am »
debate #1: Charest asked if he's a Conservative... well duh!
Well, given the fact that he was elected premier of Quebec as a Liberal, I think it is natural to question whether he is interested in supporting "conservative" ideas, or whether he is just picking a "convenient" path to power.

I do think he handled the question quite well... pointing out his economic record as Quebec premier (including tax cuts, improved provincial credit rating, etc.)

As another poster pointed out, it was a bit... disconcerting when people started booing when he pointed out that the "freedom convoy" was illegal.

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« Reply #156 on: May 06, 2022, 09:37:07 am »
Ok, thanks for posting this.  I think that I get him now.

It's red meat for those conservatives who love the name calling and puff chest posing.

I also get what the left hates about him.

Is there anything in the way of ideas from him?

He had a good chance of being PM, what is the grand vision?

It's a toned-down version of Donald Trump's "those other guys are out to f*ck you and i'm the only one who can stop them" spiel, with "those guys" being whatever out-group you want it to be (immigrants, work leftists, wealthy elites).

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« Reply #157 on: May 06, 2022, 10:23:28 am »
It's a toned-down version of Donald Trump's "those other guys are out to f*ck you and i'm the only one who can stop them" spiel, with "those guys" being whatever out-group you want it to be (immigrants, work leftists, wealthy elites).

Well he's not as stupid as Trump but every bit as cynical.

We knew Trump was in it to make money for himself and attempt his gigantically dumb ideas.

But what... WHAT.... WHAT... does PP want to achieve, or ... is he even proposing ?

Calling Charest a liberal won't be a great action item once he is PM.

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« Reply #158 on: May 06, 2022, 11:27:08 am »
But what... WHAT.... WHAT... does PP want to achieve, or ... is he even proposing ?

just what does skippy want to achieve... as he "runs for Prime Minister"? Why, of course, to "take back control of your life"! Of course!

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« Reply #159 on: May 06, 2022, 11:49:21 am »
Well he's not as stupid as Trump but every bit as cynical.

We knew Trump was in it to make money for himself and attempt his gigantically dumb ideas.

I'm not saying he's anything like trump, just that the message is the same. It's the populist playbook.

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But what... WHAT.... WHAT... does PP want to achieve, or ... is he even proposing ?

He wants to be PM and make his friends richer, what else is there?

(To be clear: this is not a generic "all politicians are corrupt" thing, but specific to PP. I can't imagine a weird little freak who went into politics in his 20s has any great principles or convictions beyond the attainment of power. Jee also: Kenney, Jason)
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« Reply #160 on: May 06, 2022, 12:39:53 pm »
just what does skippy want to achieve... as he "runs for Prime Minister"? Why, of course, to "take back control of your life"! Of course!

Well that's retarded.

I am not willing to predict how well/poorly such stupidity will play.

He's campaigning against the pandemic ?  By the time of the next election will mask mandates be much more than an unpleasant piece of nostalgia ?

He's like the nerd who actually turned out to be bad at math and everything.

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« Reply #161 on: May 06, 2022, 12:47:32 pm »
1. It's the populist playbook.

2. I can't imagine a weird little freak who went into politics in his 20s has any great principles or convictions beyond the attainment of power. Jee also: Kenney, Jason)

1. The new one.  The old one from the 20th century was 'Blame the Rich'.  It resulted in the society that neocons now celebrate: pro-worker, progressive, collaborative, community-focused and guided by science.  Of course they just remember something about no black people or lesbians being around.

2. Yeah, me neither.  What kind of sex does someone like him have ?  Let's see... google google... well his wife looks normal.  Wow she cited THIS on her linkedIn

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-nike-a-boys-club-culture-and-flawed-hr-1522509975

Calling a corporate company a 'boys club' culture is pretty CANCEL CULTURE.  Maybe this is a hint that they are closet liberals.

Anyway, he will go down at some point.  Hopefully in the next 6 months, not in 2 years or - ugh - 10 years

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« Reply #162 on: May 06, 2022, 01:11:36 pm »
1. The new one.  The old one from the 20th century was 'Blame the Rich'. It resulted in the society that neocons now celebrate: pro-worker, progressive, collaborative, community-focused and guided by science.  Of course they just remember something about no black people or lesbians being around.

I guess the better way to describe it is "new right populism" because populism itself ain't. abad thing. I'd consider Bernie to be a populist, for example.

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2. Yeah, me neither.  What kind of sex does someone like him have ?  Let's see... google google... well his wife looks normal.  Wow she cited THIS on her linkedIn

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-nike-a-boys-club-culture-and-flawed-hr-1522509975

Calling a corporate company a 'boys club' culture is pretty CANCEL CULTURE.  Maybe this is a hint that they are closet liberals.

Woke virtue signalling from the CPC frontrunner, man you hate to see it.

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« Reply #163 on: May 06, 2022, 02:14:15 pm »
1. The new one.  The old one from the 20th century was 'Blame the Rich'.  It resulted in the society that neocons now celebrate: pro-worker, progressive, collaborative, community-focused and guided by science.  Of course they just remember something about no black people or lesbians being around.

2. Yeah, me neither.  What kind of sex does someone like him have ?  Let's see... google google... well his wife looks normal.  Wow she cited THIS on her linkedIn

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-nike-a-boys-club-culture-and-flawed-hr-1522509975

Calling a corporate company a 'boys club' culture is pretty CANCEL CULTURE.  Maybe this is a hint that they are closet liberals.

Anyway, he will go down at some point.  Hopefully in the next 6 months, not in 2 years or - ugh - 10 years

Thinking that his wife is the same as him and doesn’t have her own opinions is wrong-headed.  Maybe even a tad sexist.
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #164 on: May 06, 2022, 05:12:35 pm »
Well, given the fact that he was elected premier of Quebec as a Liberal, I think it is natural to question whether he is interested in supporting "conservative" ideas, or whether he is just picking a "convenient" path to power.

I do think he handled the question quite well... pointing out his economic record as Quebec premier (including tax cuts, improved provincial credit rating, etc.)

As another poster pointed out, it was a bit... disconcerting when people started booing when he pointed out that the "freedom convoy" was illegal.

Must be the convenience. I like him, I supported him when he ran for premier (I was living in Montreal at the time). If for some reason he wins the nomination I would probably vote CPC for the first time in my life.