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Offline waldo

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« Reply #90 on: April 05, 2022, 02:53:23 am »
skippy has had a many month's long run of repeatedly casting aspersion towards the 'Bank of Canada'... while at the same time playing up crypto-currency as the alternative. This, THIS from someone presuming to lead a G7 country; one as leading, "the path to personal liberty over the tyranny of government power over Canada's national financial system". It couldn't be more laughable if it wasn't actually a front by pigeonPierre to simply bring in another faction of "the base".

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« Reply #91 on: April 07, 2022, 11:33:59 am »
Poilevre's recent weeks 'grassroots' rallies (so-called 'Freedom Rallies') have been punctuated with the catch-phrase, "Freedom is on the Move"... meanwhile one of the key measures of global freedom was released - the 2021 Human Freedom Index, where Canada ranks 6th (of 165 countries) having moved up 3 ranking positions since the last release of the index:

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« Reply #92 on: April 07, 2022, 11:42:44 am »
Quote from: waldo on April 07, 2022, 11:33:59 am
Poilevre's recent weeks 'grassroots' rallies (so-called 'Freedom Rallies') have been punctuated with the catch-phrase, "Freedom is on the Move"... meanwhile one of the key measures of global freedom was released - the 2021 Human Freedom Index, where Canada ranks 6th (of 165 countries) having moved up 3 ranking positions since the last release of the index:


Completely meaningless and subjective nonsense.  How exactly is the United States ranked 15th but Canada 6th, when the United States, for better or for worse has much more freedom?  These lists are based on the subjective criteria based on the opinions of people who compose the list. 
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« Reply #93 on: April 07, 2022, 12:02:12 pm »
Quote from: Retro Shady on April 07, 2022, 11:42:44 am
Completely meaningless and subjective nonsense.  How exactly is the United States ranked 15th but Canada 6th, when the United States, for better or for worse has much more freedom? These lists are based on the subjective criteria based on the opinions of people who compose the list.

That's your opinion based on your own subjective criteria lol.

It's also funny that you're arguing against the work of two arch conservative think tanks.
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« Reply #94 on: April 07, 2022, 12:19:35 pm »
Quote from: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 12:02:12 pm
That's your opinion based on your own subjective criteria lol.

It's also funny that you're arguing against the work of two arch conservative think tanks.
And how is Canada listed higher than the United States, when for better or worse, they have much more freedom?  Did the so-called arch conservative think tanks take into consideration Trudeau's new anti-protest, freezing bank accounts attitude?  Because nothings screams of freedom than the government freezing your bank account without a court order! LOL!  That doesn't even get into Trudeau's new internet censorship legislation.  FREEEEEEEDOOOOOMMM!
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« Reply #95 on: April 07, 2022, 12:30:54 pm »
Quote from: Retro Shady on April 07, 2022, 12:19:35 pm
And how is Canada listed higher than the United States, when for better or worse, they have much more freedom? 
Did the so-called arch conservative think tanks take into consideration Trudeau's new anti-protest, freezing bank accounts attitude?  Because nothings screams of freedom than the government freezing your bank account without a court order! LOL!  That doesn't even get into Trudeau's new internet censorship legislation.  FREEEEEEEDOOOOOMMM!

Again, that's all your opinion based on your own subjective criteria. If you want to know why Canada ranks higher than the States in the Cato/Fraser rankings you could simply seek out their report.
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« Reply #96 on: April 07, 2022, 12:35:50 pm »
Quote from: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 12:30:54 pm
Again, that's all your opinion based on your own subjective criteria. If you want to know why Canada ranks higher than the States in the Cato/Fraser rankings you could simply seek out their report.
That's what I though, you have no answer, because there is none.  Canada doesn't have any more personal freedom etc than the United States.  It only has less.  Next.
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« Reply #97 on: April 07, 2022, 12:41:07 pm »
Quote from: Retro Shady on April 07, 2022, 12:19:35 pm
And how is Canada listed higher than the United States, when for better or worse, they have much more freedom?  Did the so-called arch conservative think tanks take into consideration Trudeau's new anti-protest, freezing bank accounts attitude?  Because nothings screams of freedom than the government freezing your bank account without a court order! LOL!  That doesn't even get into Trudeau's new internet censorship legislation.  FREEEEEEEDOOOOOMMM!

The study lists the objective criteria they use.  Why don’t you read it and let us know what criteria you think they got wrong. 

You know…. Have an informed opinion, rather than just talk out your ass. 
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« Reply #98 on: April 07, 2022, 12:47:34 pm »
Quote from: Squidward von Squidderson on April 07, 2022, 12:41:07 pm
The study lists the objective criteria they use.  Why don’t you read it and let us know what criteria you think they got wrong. 

You know…. Have an informed opinion, rather than just talk out your ass.
I don't see the study listed.
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« Reply #99 on: April 07, 2022, 01:08:15 pm »
Quote from: Retro Shady on April 07, 2022, 12:35:50 pm
That's what I though, you have no answer, because there is none.  Canada doesn't have any more personal freedom etc than the United States.  It only has less.  Next.

Again: that is your opinion based on your own subjective criteria. in my opinion, Canadians are far more free than Americans as they are far less likely to be imprisoned, less likely to be immiserated by forces beyond their control and less likely to die violently at the hands of fellow citizens or armed and unaccountable agents of the state to name a few things.
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« Reply #100 on: April 07, 2022, 01:17:45 pm »
Quote from: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 01:08:15 pm
Again: that is your opinion based on your own subjective criteria. in my opinion, Canadians are far more free than Americans as they are far less likely to be imprisoned, less likely to be immiserated by forces beyond their control and less likely to die violently at the hands of fellow citizens or armed and unaccountable agents of the state to name a few things.
How are they less likely to be imprisioned?  And wtf is immiserated by forces beyond their control?  Is that a reference to the defund the police policies?  Because, yes, I agree that that's probably one of the reasons why they could be listed lower.  Democrat policy has unleased a pretty bad crime wave due to idiotic policies like defund the police and bail reform.  Regardless, American's have a greater freedom of speech, second amendment freedoms, religious freedoms etc.  Much more than Canada does.
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« Reply #101 on: April 07, 2022, 01:50:30 pm »
Quote from: Retro Shady on April 07, 2022, 01:17:45 pm
How are they less likely to be imprisioned?

Canadian criminal laws are far less punitive and far less carcerally centric than the U.S.

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And wtf is immiserated by forces beyond their control?  Is that a reference to the defund the police policies?

lol, Christ you are dumb.

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Because, yes, I agree that that's probably one of the reasons why they could be listed lower.  Democrat policy has unleased a pretty bad crime wave due to idiotic policies like defund the police and bail reform. 

LOL still lying about this, huh?

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Regardless, American's have a greater freedom of speech, second amendment freedoms, religious freedoms etc.  Much more than Canada does.

The only part of this is true is the second amendment thing, which is only because it doesn't exist in Canadian law and is not actually a measure of freedom.
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« Reply #102 on: April 07, 2022, 01:58:46 pm »
Quote from: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 01:50:30 pm
Canadian criminal laws are far less punitive and far less carcerally centric than the U.S.

lol, Christ you are dumb.

LOL still lying about this, huh?

The only part of this is true is the second amendment thing, which is only because it doesn't exist in Canadian law and is not actually a measure of freedom.
No they're not.  At least not anymore.  For example, most drug laws pertaining to cannabis are tickets now instead of jail time.  You're operating from an outdated mindset.  And no, American's do enjoy much more freedom of speech.  We have human rights tribunals that punish people for saying "the wrong thing."  That's a fact.  Another fact is the spike in crime, specifically linked to defund the police policies related to bail reform, letting violent criminals back on the street.  I'm sorry that fact bothers you as well.  You're living in a make believe fantasy land.  You're a domestic chickenhawk, advocating for policies who's negative impact won't affect you. 
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« Reply #103 on: April 07, 2022, 02:19:39 pm »
Quote from: Retro Shady on April 07, 2022, 01:58:46 pm
No they're not.  At least not anymore.  For example, most drug laws pertaining to cannabis are tickets now instead of jail time.  You're operating from an outdated mindset. 

The United States has a greater share of people in prison than any other nation on the planet but that's ok because in some places just get a ticket for smoking weed. Moronic.

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And no, American's do enjoy much more freedom of speech.  We have human rights tribunals that punish people for saying "the wrong thing." That's a fact.

A hilarious simplification from a hilarious simpleton. What is the chilling effect of a human rights tribunal compared to the threat of losing your livelihood because of at-will employment laws or the kind of anti-speech laws you support?

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Another fact is the spike in crime, specifically linked to defund the police policies related to bail reform, letting violent criminals back on the street.  I'm sorry that fact bothers you as well.

I've lost count of how many times I've debunked this, but here you are spewing the same nonsense.

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You're living in a make believe fantasy land.  You're a domestic chickenhawk, advocating for policies who's negative impact won't affect you.

It's not just that you're aggressively stupid and constantly wrong, the fact you're so boring and unoriginal is what makes you so tedious.
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #104 on: April 08, 2022, 01:21:19 am »
Quote from: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 12:02:12 pm
It's also funny that you're arguing against the work of two arch conservative think tanks.

bingo! C'mon retro, if you can't trust right-wing/Conservative slanted stink-tanks, who you gonna trust, hey?

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