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« Reply #225 on: June 06, 2022, 07:38:47 pm »
Polio Pete... let's hope that sticks...

I was a kid during the polio epidemic. Parents were ecstatic when a vaccine became available and we lined up to get it. The idea of not being vaccinated would have been looney tunes back then. Polio and smallpox vaccination clinics were standard in schools.
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« Reply #226 on: June 06, 2022, 07:54:49 pm »
I was a kid during the polio epidemic. Parents were ecstatic when a vaccine became available and we lined up to get it. The idea of not being vaccinated would have been looney tunes back then. Polio and smallpox vaccination clinics were standard in schools.

They gave a megaphone to the stupids...
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« Reply #227 on: June 06, 2022, 10:24:01 pm »
I was a kid during the polio epidemic. Parents were ecstatic when a vaccine became available and we lined up to get it. The idea of not being vaccinated would have been looney tunes back then. Polio and smallpox vaccination clinics were standard in schools.

Vaccines are good.  We should highly encourage them without a doubt.  The question is whether the state should force kids to have medicine injected into them, such is exactly what we're talking any here.

Personally I would still feel safe if a few kids in my kid's class didn't have vaccinations as long as my kid did.   Denying a kid their right to an education because their parents don't consent to their child undergoing a medical procedure the state wants them to have is a very serious thing.

The parents who don't vax their kids are stupid, but people have a right to be stupid and to consent to medical procedures.
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« Reply #228 on: June 08, 2022, 12:12:39 am »
Vaccines are good.  We should highly encourage them without a doubt.  The question is whether the state should force kids to have medicine injected into them, such is exactly what we're talking any here.
Of course, you seem to be ignoring the fact that the state never actually forces children to take vaccines. You always have the option of (for example) homeschooling. Yeah, that's a lot more inconvenient than sending them off to school. But that's the price of stupidity.

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Personally I would still feel safe if a few kids in my kid's class didn't have vaccinations as long as my kid did.
"Safe" is not always a simple binary 'yes/no' issue. Your kids will be safer with the vaccine than without. But having unvaccinated kids around decreases the amount of safety .

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Denying a kid their right to an education because their parents don't consent to their child undergoing a medical procedure the state wants them to have is a very serious thing.
Children have a right to an education. But children (and teachers) also have a right to be safe.

Vaccines work very well, but they are not 100%... some people (for whatever reason) do not develop the proper immune response, and they can be infected. The potential of loss of education in the unvaccinated child must be weighed against the potential health risks to a child that has been fully vaccinated by still has the potential to be infected. So who's rights take precidence?

Plus, even if you assume "vaccinated kids are safe enough", if you drop the vaccine mandate you have to consider the possibility that overall vaccination rates will fall, thus adding to even more risk.
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« Reply #229 on: June 08, 2022, 11:11:25 am »

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« Reply #230 on: June 08, 2022, 05:07:44 pm »
geezaz Candi! Is this all you've got... to solve 'justinflation'? That's it?




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« Reply #231 on: June 11, 2022, 12:40:03 pm »


Itís time for Pierre Poilievre to get serious and stop giving oxygen to Conservativesí furious fringe

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In his quest for the national Conservative leadership it seems there are no limits on what Poilievre is prepared to say to curry favour with the angry anti-vax constituency in his party, the same people prone to disappear down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories about globalist plots to run the world.
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How much of what heís saying now is based on sincere belief, and how much is just a cynical bid for votes among the Conservativesí furious fringe?
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But at the moment he is riding a tiger. It looks like itís carrying him to the Conservative leadership, but heís feeding forces that he may not be able to control down the road.

Itís time for Poilievre to get serious and make clear where he stands on all this. Becoming leader of one of the countryís national parties carries with it great responsibility. Fuelling fringe theories and casting doubt on whether he would fight a future pandemic fails that test spectacularly.

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« Reply #232 on: June 11, 2022, 10:01:24 pm »
I'd prefer a forensic inquiry into money laundering and real estate but a public inquiry would be better than nothing.

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« Reply #233 on: June 11, 2022, 11:12:26 pm »
I'd prefer a forensic inquiry into money laundering and real estate but a public inquiry would be better than nothing.

I'd prefer scrapping the whole system and going direct democracy.  A lot harder to buy off tens of millions of Canadians than a bunch of well-connected politicians.
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #234 on: June 12, 2022, 07:03:59 am »
The most inclusive form of government is inclusive tribal governance.  We have the technical tools to try to scale this.

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« Reply #235 on: June 12, 2022, 10:35:35 am »
I'd prefer scrapping the whole system and going direct democracy.  A lot harder to buy off tens of millions of Canadians than a bunch of well-connected politicians.

The last federal election cost over $600 million, are you going to spend that every time there is a bill to vote on?
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« Reply #236 on: June 12, 2022, 02:52:16 pm »
The last federal election cost over $600 million, are you going to spend that every time there is a bill to vote on?

Do it online.  I submit my taxes online every year and do banking almost exclusively online.

How much good vs bad do our "democratic representatives" do for this country?  I trust Canadians to act in the best interests of the country and everyday citizens than I do these idiots.  They suck, many of them are crooks, at least the ones with any power, so take away their power as much as possible.

We can see corruption destroying Canada and the US right before our eyes.  Remove the middle-man.
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« Reply #237 on: June 12, 2022, 04:19:07 pm »
Charges of corruption without specifics strike me as extremely basic and unthoughtful.

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« Reply #238 on: June 12, 2022, 04:46:50 pm »
Charges of corruption without specifics strike me as extremely basic and unthoughtful.

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« Reply #239 on: June 12, 2022, 04:49:05 pm »
I don't have to do your homework for you when I say the sky is blue and you want proof.

If you need specifics that the Canadian and US political systems are corrupt then it's not I who is failing to think.
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