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Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« on: February 28, 2022, 04:09:32 am »
so Poilievre (aka skippy) announces his intent to run for... PM - yes, that's right, for Prime Minister; apparently, he's skipping that pesky CPC leadership thingee!



oh my! Of late, is there anything more cringeworthy than this announcement - that oddly is released in the 'dead of a Friday night'!

but really, c'mon which skippy will be running:
- the guy needing to secure {enough} caucus endorsements to ease the CPC leadership convention path; and/or
- the guy needing to play to the far-right CPC members just to win the CPC leadership, or
- the guy needing to balance the membership want against an eventual CPC national candidate... you know, one that can actually get elected while faking a shift to the moderate centre; a move that neither Scheer or O'Toole could manage!

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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2022, 04:29:33 am »
Jean Charest - please save us from these people...



notwithstanding Poilievre's self-coronation as PM, the as yet unconfirmed Charest is said to be 'contemplating' a run for the CPC leadership... speaking of, a recent open letter signed by Conservative/CPC MPs and senators calling on Jean Charest, the former premier of Quebec, to run for leadership of the Conservative party. Full text of the letter:

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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2022, 04:36:13 am »
#pigeonPierre held the high profile assignment as the 'Finance Critic' for the CPC Opposition... in the HOC regularly going up against former Finance Minister Morneau, then moving on to Finance Minister Freeland. As Vice-Chair of the Finance Committee, Poilievre was always in the news... was regularly sought out by the media for comment on matters before the committee. Ever the snarky one, ever the one to throw barbs, to mock, to ridicule... Over time criticism of his "style" eventually caught up to him and Poilievre's time finally ran out as he lost this plum assignment... this key job/role.

even in the face of criticism from Poilievre, Prime Minister Trudeau showed his caring and expressed empathy for Poilievre losing his job in the throes of the pandemic!


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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2022, 04:45:17 am »
on again/off again Finance Shadow Minister #PigeonPierre has made repeated attempts to lay the blame for Canada's increased inflation rate on PM Trudeau and Liberal government policies/actions... with the ever repeating collective CPC nattering/use of the phrase & tag JustinFlation! Of course this nonsense was so easily dispatched by those experts from across the political spectrum, including prominent conservative pundits and the most profiled Canadian economists who stated the current inflation increase has almost nothing to do with the federal governments policies. Notwithstanding current inflation is a global phenomenon Poilievre would have Canadians believe PM Trudeau's reach and influence is, apparently, global in impacting upon and acting to create the same increased inflation rates found in the U.S., in Germany, in the UK, etc.!

of course the real causes of the current increased inflation reflect upon and are being driven by, in the near term, the pandemic and its impact on everything from oil and gas prices to supply chains. And, of course, one of the more prolific longer term drivers of inflation is climate change - something CPC/Poilievre wants nothing to do with in terms of acknowledging the threat and economic impacts of! More pointedly, the CPC/Poilievre are wanting to emphasize one of their key perceived reasons for increased inflation as one tied to Liberal government deficit pandemic spending in support of Canadians... certainly something that, according to #PigeonPierre, would never happen if Conservatives were 'in charge'! Who can forget this spanking Minister Freeland gave Poilievre in that very regard, where he outright stated:

Quote from: CPC Finance Shadow Minister, Pierre Poilievre
You may want to address COVID-19 with big fat government programs; we're conservatives, we don't believe in that!

Deputy Prime Minister Freeland reminds the CPC MP for Carleton, Pierre Poilievre, what he said when asked what support the government should offer to Canadians hurt by the pandemic:

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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2022, 05:31:00 am »
again, over & over, CPC MP Poilievre keeps presenting himself as not just the defacto leader of the CPC, but as 'running for Prime Minister'... that, apparently, he's expecting a coronation rather than an actual CPC leadership contest... and he's quite desperate in attempting to shift the narrative away from his most overt display of support for the 'Freedum Convoy'!


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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2022, 08:38:55 am »
so Poilievre (aka skippy) announces his intent to run for... PM - yes, that's right, for Prime Minister; apparently, he's skipping that pesky CPC leadership thingee!



oh my! Of late, is there anything more cringeworthy than this announcement - that oddly is released in the 'dead of a Friday night'!

but really, c'mon which skippy will be running:
- the guy needing to secure {enough} caucus endorsements to ease the CPC leadership convention path; and/or
- the guy needing to play to the far-right CPC members just to win the CPC leadership, or
- the guy needing to balance the membership want against an eventual CPC national candidate... you know, one that can actually get elected while faking a shift to the moderate centre; a move that neither Scheer or O'Toole could manage!
Is there anything more cringeworthy?  Have you ever watched a Justin Trudeau press conference?  Or question period?  Or debate?  Or speech?

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2022, 08:39:51 am »
Also, good idea on the uncensored thread.  We may have to do that with other ones as well, to avoid the squidiot's ridiculous behavior.

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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2022, 10:24:21 am »
We are at a time when we no longer have the luxury of having this culture-warrior types in leadership roles.

Trudeau doesn't even invoke wokeness very much anymore for obvious reasons: 1) He ain't woke and 2) He has had to deal with massive emergencies on a global scale

Then these pea-shooters like Poilievre show up and want to talk like it's 2016....

We don't need them. 

I don't know what a Charest would bring to the Conservatives but it wouldn't be culture war... except possibly to appease the balcony seats...
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2022, 10:35:58 am »
We are at a time when we no longer have the luxury of having this culture-warrior types in leadership roles.

Trudeau doesn't even invoke wokeness very much anymore for obvious reasons: 1) He ain't woke and 2) He has had to deal with massive emergencies on a global scale

Then these pea-shooters like Poilievre show up and want to talk like it's 2016....

We don't need them. 

I don't know what a Charest would bring to the Conservatives but it wouldn't be culture war... except possibly to appease the balcony seats...
I don't see Pollievre as a culture warrior, I see him as a bread and butter leader.  Kitchen table issues are his forte.  Inflation, housing, energy, etc.  Now it is true that Trudeau, is his efforts to remain in power, has turned some of these, like energy into cultural issues.  But they shouldn't be.

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2022, 11:04:06 am »
1. I don't see Pollievre as a culture warrior, I see him as a bread and butter leader.  Kitchen table issues are his forte.  Inflation, housing, energy, etc. 

2. Now it is true that Trudeau, is his efforts to remain in power, has turned some of these, like energy into cultural issues.  But they shouldn't be.

1. Well as a Centrist, I don't see any of that in his comms

2. Trudeau turned energy into a culture issue ?  You mean when he bought the pipeline ? 🤔

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2022, 04:10:21 pm »
so... no coronation after all! Skippy has announced 4 "principled & thoughtful" co-chairs for his CPC leader campaign. Once again John Baird, multi-portfolio Harper cabinet minister, surfaces - is someone sniffin' about for a Senate appointment - ya think, hey waldo?


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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2022, 04:18:35 pm »
Also, good idea on the uncensored thread.  We may have to do that with other ones as well, to avoid the squidiot's ridiculous behavior.

no worries member Shady - this thread covet's your active participation - freedom of expression rules above & beyond that censoring member squiggy! 
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2022, 07:58:41 pm »
We are at a time when we no longer have the luxury of having this culture-warrior types in leadership roles.

Trudeau doesn't even invoke wokeness very much anymore for obvious reasons: 1) He ain't woke and 2) He has had to deal with massive emergencies on a global scale

Then these pea-shooters like Poilievre show up and want to talk like it's 2016....

We don't need them. 

I don't know what a Charest would bring to the Conservatives but it wouldn't be culture war... except possibly to appease the balcony seats...

Is Pierre a culture warrior, or just annoying?  Which is also sorta his job in grilling the gov as member of the opposition.

I don't like Pierre.  He reeks of used car salesman.  But I don't really know much about his positions.  He seems like a very prototypical conservative.
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2022, 08:07:52 pm »
Is Pierre a culture warrior, or just annoying?  Which is also sorta his job in grilling the gov as member of the opposition.

I don't like Pierre.  He reeks of used car salesman.  But I don't really know much about his positions.  He seems like a very prototypical conservative.
Exactly.  He gets under the skin of Trudeau and his supporters because hes funny, witty and ruthless and also annoying in his questioning of the government.  His policies are mostly monetary in nature.  One of the benefits of him as conservative leader is he takes a big chunk of support from PPC, rendering Bernier as mostly irrelevant, and significantly eliminating the vote splitting.
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Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2022, 09:26:21 pm »
Exactly.  He gets under the skin of Trudeau and his supporters because hes funny, witty and ruthless and also annoying in his questioning of the government.  His policies are mostly monetary in nature.  One of the benefits of him as conservative leader is he takes a big chunk of support from PPC, rendering Bernier as mostly irrelevant, and significantly eliminating the vote splitting.

He may get 3 out of PPC's 5% but he's gonna cost the CPC a lot of moderate votes. You guys are really bad at this.

You should've kept O'Toole but I guess he wasn't batshit crazy enough.
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